1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Differential Analysis

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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by moinsdewatt » 21/02/16, 21:27

Hic wrote:Hi everybody

An electric 1Kw electric motor produces 1Kw mechanical
via a total power of magnetic 1Kw,
which does not allow "magnetic against magnetic reaction" feedback,

This demonstration demonstrates the validity of the unified field theory see more.
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he starts his magnetic troll again. : Mrgreen:
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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by moinsdewatt » 21/02/16, 21:29

Hic wrote:If the feedback is no longer in the "magnetic against magnetic feedback" domain, since an electric motor turns like a top without feedback,
we change the domain is we get into that of relativity or the counter-reaction is a transfer
which is close to the unified field theory



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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by hic » 21/02/16, 22:21

Christophe wrote:Me jdis: there is a catch in his reasoning! :D


You are the engineer who does not know how to make an energy balance? too easy !

but what was he going to do in this galley? : Mrgreen:


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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by Christophe » 22/02/16, 10:17

I prefer not to respond to this personal attack ... the readers will make their opinion themselves by reading your reasoning and mine ...
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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by hic » 22/02/16, 11:47

Christophe wrote:I prefer not to respond to this personal attack ... the readers will make their opinion themselves by reading your reasoning and mine ...

Personal attack ??? where are you going ???????

You haven't even denied reading me, or a big justified doubt.

So I’m very calm and serene,
and I ask, dear engineer, expressly that you give me an energy balance on a standard electric motor.

1Kw electric product
1KW magnetic which propels the motor to
1Kw mechanical

Your refusal will be significant !!! contrary to what you think.

and yet, I do not invent. . . nothing!
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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by Christophe » 22/02/16, 11:49

You forget the returns but it's okay ... (yes but good ... okay for you since you seem to know the truth)

Why do you think there are cooling fins on electric motors?
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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by raymon » 22/02/16, 12:47

I am not super gifted in electromagnetism and there is something that I do not understand well. What is the link of all this with the reactive current for example in this video we see these 2 motors wrapped in condos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf47V1SKiXE
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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by izentrop » 22/02/16, 13:27

Apparently we are dealing with a bricolo that has three-phase motors that it supplies in single-phase. The 50 µF condo, by shifting a bit of current on the third phase, allows starting (if the belt is not too tight), but since it is powered on 2 legs it has no power.
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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by Remundo » 22/02/16, 13:56

Hic, your vocabulary is unintelligible, and the scientific concepts that you brandish are without foundation. We do not need relativity or quantum field theory to properly describe the operation of an everyday electric motor.

An electric motor rubs mechanically, and when the electrons come to life, whether for magnetic (induction) or electrical reasons (electromotive fields), they also rub at the microspopic level (Joule effect).

One element of the answer anyway: there is no 1kW electric, 1kW mechanical and 1kW magnetic that add up! the electrical kW is coupled between the magnetic fields and the machine currents / voltage. the mechanical kW is also directly coupled to this electromagnetic kW via the Laplace forces and the moving parts.

And the game is not 100% efficient, but less (between 90 and 95%) for good electric motors / generators.
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Re: 1er step into the unknown, Electric Motor Analysis Diffentiel

by Christophe » 22/02/16, 14:58

izentrop wrote:Apparently we are dealing with a bricolo that has three-phase motors that it supplies in single-phase. The 50 µF condo, by shifting a bit of current on the third phase, allows starting (if the belt is not too tight), but since it is powered on 2 legs it has no power.


Uh not so bad that this is the case of 99% of small asynchronous motors currently sold that are powered in mono with 1 phase shifted (so a two-phase motor actually?)

Most people, me even until not long ago, confuse the starting capacitor (which has become extremely rare on small motors) and operating capacitor to simulate precisely a 2ieme phase out of phase.

Here is a recent topic that talks about it: water-pumping-filtration / calculation-capacitor-operation-motor-pump-guinard-elem-t14125.html
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