Have you already done tests and what are the results?

[Ekinoks]

Hello !

I discovered this site today (while researching on google on the pantone engine) and I see that there are several "crazy" systems.
Many seem to be a big no matter what else and you have the benefit of the doubt ...

So are there people among you who have already tested one of these systems?

[Other]

Hello

Obviously we have results, otherwise it's been a long time that we would have dropped the system and certainly not install on all our vehicles ..
He said so much bullshit about this system too simple
that we are made to no longer know who gives the right time
although those who did montages know what is real and what is aproximatif
On When home the last assembly of the Peugeot, long test on travel 4000 km well encrypted, values ​​that coresspondent almost exactly mine. When you read this you know that the guy is meticulous in these advertised numbers ..

If not measured or poorly measured useless to advance figures

For pollution I do not know, never measured scientifically.
For consumption my best result
for a Mercedes 300D automatic transmission engine 3 liters
6,05 liters to 100km while driving at 105, at 110kmh
6,5 and 7 liter if city and mixed driving is running
you get used to it and there is nothing extraordinary about it.
the problem is that good values ​​are reached on the highway and rather at high speed,
the system is not very efficient if I compare it to 80kmh with panton or without panton, but 140kmh the comparisons is blatant.
As the manufacturers give their minimal consumption, around 90kmh if we do the tests at the same speed that will give a ridicule 10%
But at 120kmh the figures go up to 30% and most of the exchanges on the forum , it is to improve these% to the usual regimes (or legals) of our cars ..

We have nothing to gain personally to promote this system, the exchanges are for the purpose of improving or helping new ones not to make the mistakes that we make, all are not ready to recomerate several times to have a result ..

(You would not be by chance the guy who talked to me when I was filling up the water tank in the small village of Massuville?)
Andre

[Ekinoks]

Hi Andre and thank you for your answer =)

No sorry it was not me in Massuville

Ok, so there you talk about the pantone system is that?
When you say between 6 and 7 liters for 100km you speak of essences of essance? or gasoline + water?


And if not for the other engines / energies?

[Christophe]

In view of the number of positive experiments presented on these forums on the site and on quanthomme, I think he is a little daring to ask such a question...

At the level realization / synthesis / explanation you can inspire you hard Wiki Pantone here: https://www.econologie.com/wiki-moteur-p ... hp/Accueil

Moreover, if some experimenters wanted to share their realization (on the wiki) because for the moment there is that André, Camel and I who participated ... we feel a little alone the

[Ekinoks]

Thank you for joining the talk Christophe =)

You're absolutely right! for the pantone engine, given the number of people who made this engine and say that it works, I do not doubt that it works ...
By cons you also speak in this forum other engine / energy and it is about these techniques that I am perplexed and I wonder if there are people among you who have already done tests ...

[Christophe]

Ben for the other untapped techniques here are the ones that I think are the most promising (correct me if I forget), link selections:

1) Solar Hydrogen:
https://www.econologie.com/le-solaire-co ... -3224.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/solaire-je ... t1520.html

2) Oleaginous algae:
https://www.econologie.com/algues-et-bio ... -3387.html
et https://www.econologie.com/forums/huile-vege ... t2242.html

3) Miscanthus and other fast growing plants for heating:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/l-herbe-a- ... t3929.html

4) There is also the tri-lobic engine that works with very low pressure delta:
https://www.econologie.com/moteur-rotati ... -2919.html

After there is also the liquefaction of biomass, the gasification of wood ... but less easy to access than 3 point above (although for solar hydrogen is not so simple ... but Perrier l did well alone ...)

It is quite unfortunate that all these solutions are more or less ignored by manufacturers (at least when we compare their investment compared to fossils ... or official biofuels) ... they are nevertheless much more economical ...

[toto65]

Solar Stirling Engine
https://www.econologie.com/moteur-stirli ... -3141.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteur-sti ... t1244.html

By cons you also speak in this forum other motor / energy and it's about these techniques that I'm puzzled and I wonder if there are people among you who have already done tests

Which one exactly?

[Christophe]

+ 1 / 2 for Solar Stirling because complex so expensive for individuals ...

The note is valid for the solar H2 also but the energy is, in this case, storable ... therefore transportable.

[Ekinoks]

Which one exactly?

Tesla, Newman, cold fusion, etc ...

If not, I'm looking at the links you have
put, especially the "Solar Stirling Engine" and the "tri-lobe engine" which looks very interesting!

[Christophe]

Tesla, Newman, cold fusion, etc ...

HM hm...

Hardly accessible for individuals, but this subject should then fascinate you: https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteurs-ma ... t1646.html