This graphene circuit produces energy indefinitely

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Re: This graphene circuit produces energy indefinitely




by ABC2019 » 23/02/21, 13:39

ABC2019 wrote: I had no other answer, neither from him, nor from you, nor from anyone else on this forum, and I have nowhere read another value. So while waiting for a real answer (i.e. no blah-blah-smoke-screen-oops-watch-the-rabbit-turned-into-a-dove), I stay on this value ∆S = -W / T <0 therefore impossible.
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by Obamot » 24/02/21, 05:59

No sequitur ^^
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by ABC2019 » 24/02/21, 06:54

Obamot wrote:No sequitur ^^

Good Obamot, as you have recognized yourself being unable to do any thermodynamic calculation, there are probably other things that you did not understand either.

The only thing the second principle says is that the entropy of the Universe cannot decrease. That is to say that if you take a transformation which goes from A to B, the only constraint imposed by the second principle is that S (B) ≥ S (A), and the only thing that it prohibits , it's S (B) <S (A), and that's it.

There is no other way to show that it violates the second principle than by showing that S (B) <S (A). There is no other way to show that it does not violate it than to show that S (B) ≥ S (A). You will not find any discussion anywhere on something "forbidden by the second principle" (like that the heat cannot spontaneously go from the cold body to the hot body, or that the efficiency of a thermal machine cannot exceed 1-T1 / T2) which does not go through the demonstration that it would decrease the entropy of the universe. Not a single one.

So to know if the passage from A to B conforms to the second principle, the only way to know it is to calculate S (B) - S (A) and see if it is positive or zero, or negative. If it is positive or zero, it is not prohibited by the second principle, and if it is negative, it is prohibited by the second principle. If all court judgments were this easy to do, that would be great!

This is what I do for the transformation of part of the heat of a thermal bath into work, and I have shown that it is negative, so that it violates the second principle. You probably do not know that it is necessary and sufficient, but Thibado him he must at least know it, because he did not try to discuss once I sent him the demonstration.
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by Obamot » 24/02/21, 10:29

Yes.

I did not say that I was not qualified, I said that in terms of graphene, she was more qualified than me (and consequently that you, since you recognized that you neither, you do not was not a graphene specialist). You will excuse me if I do not lend myself to your little competitions which are your favorite playground at the moment ... 8)

I have nothing against the second principle, it will not be tomorrow that it will be called into question (or else with a theory which will be “very” compatible with it, and the first and all that underlies it, but which necessarily will shake up all science from top to bottom, and even, I don't see how that would be possible given all that it applies to ...) I don't think Thibado and his team are violating him! Not as a Professor of Uni. (he would be the laughing stock of the Campus) ... He would get fired, etc. American universities are known to be very strict and renowned worldwide for that ... Imagine at UC Davis, or Stanford also in California, that a prof. would dare suggest that?

And in that context, I am of the opinion that there are probably other things that you also did not understand in what he said ...
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by ABC2019 » 24/02/21, 11:00

Obamot wrote: I don't think Thibado and his team rape him!

the second principle has certainly never been violated by real experience, otherwise it would be known!

so of course no more Thibado than anyone else violated the second principle in reality, and therefore what he describes in his paper no more.

The question is not whether he rapes him, it's whether what he proposes would rape him or not if it were achieved. And what I'm saying is that it would violate it because ∆S = -W / T and would be <0.
Not as a Professor of Uni. (he would be the laughing stock of the Campus) ... He would get fired, etc. American universities are known to be very strict and renowned worldwide for that ... Imagine at UC Davis, or Stanford also in California, that a prof. would dare suggest that?

And in that context, I am of the opinion that there are probably other things that you also did not understand in what he said ...
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it's funny though to see those who hang out in the mud most medical teachers declare that it's impossible to say that a professor can say bullshit.

For me, either my result is right or it is wrong.

If he's right, it would violate the second principle.

If it is wrong, please give me the correct result.

Any other consideration as to whether or not the second principle is violated is irrelevant and of no interest. The only thing that matters is the ∆S sign, that's all.
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there is absolutely nothing new, it is already the interview on which I discussed with Thibaudo (he did it on February 1st and our exchanges took place between February 15th and 17th, I made you some the copy).


but my poor man, if you believe that science is done on websites ....

how much are you willing to bet with me that a real scientific publication will ever say that it produced a direct current from a medium at only one temperature?

I want to have a vacation a bit far away to clear my mind after confinement : Mrgreen:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 29/03/21, 17:46

ABC2019 wrote:my record is broken
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by ABC2019 » 29/03/21, 17:49

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:my record is broken

well no it's yours, change it, you give us exactly the same things as a month ago : roll: . There are absolutely no new results in what you are giving us.

The only thing that you prove once again is your immense credulity under your air of "one does not do it to me".
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QED
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