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[Hydraxon]

How do you want someone to explain to you whether or not there is a flaw in the known laws of physics from a video from Youtube?

If someone thinks they have made an experiment which brings a fundamental questioning, it is necessary to get in shape for a scientific publication. Otherwise, there is not the rigor necessary to extract anything from it.

[renaud67]

Please ask for a padawan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwus
Thank you

[Tagor]

How do you want someone to explain to you whether or not there is a flaw in the known laws of physics from a video from Youtube?

If someone thinks they have made an experiment which brings a fundamental questioning, it is necessary to get in shape for a scientific publication. Otherwise, there is not the rigor necessary to extract anything from it.

indeed no video can answer this question

but try to answer this gentleman's questions?

http://milesmathis.com/quest.html


http://milesmathis.com/updates.html

[Christophe]

Another great experience of our national version Padawan "I put some (not?) cool stuff in the bobonne microwave": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxI1ZjLLdb8

For youtube users, you can subscribe to their account: http://www.youtube.com/user/gilbondfac

[dedeleco]

Pure microwave effect, sometimes dangerous, by the Faraday induction mechanism dating from 1830, below the excessive heating to be seen to reflect:
Cooking in the microwave may be different from that of heating over an ordinary fire.

Why a Microwave Oven Is Bad for Your Health Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgiouEHB-A&NR=1
Why a Microwave Oven Is Bad for Your Health Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0GNh4n0 ... re=related

The effect of the waves from portable and relay antennas is of the same type, more serious, on brain cells with edemas and cancer, scientifically proven as reported in the program on Arte les Mauvaises Ondes this week.
The voltages induced and rectified even very partially, as soon as they exceed a few tens of mV are of the same order of magnitude as the voltages of living cells like the neurons and seriously disturb them, well before a noticeable heating !!
The chopping frequency of 10Hertz, moreover falls right into that of the brain, aggravating the dangers.

The current limit of 47V per meter is important and exceeds these few tens of mV over distances of 1 / 4700m or below the mm, and therefore our cells are easily disturbed, especially the fetus, chick or human, with dead and false layers !!

The requested limit of 0,6V per meter is much safer, about 100 times lower, or the range of tens of mV is reached for about 100mm, size of the brain, and therefore above the internal structures of the brain.

It is criminal that the telephone operators refuse to consider these dangers, and the report of bad waves clearly shows the bad conscience of the persons in charge for the mobile telephony by their silence and refusal to answer with coherence !!
We will have a scandal as for asbestos delayed by the time of incubation and the time of awareness.

[Remundo]

On this issue, things are complex ...

The dipole radiation is anisotropic, living just below the antenna is almost harmless, on the other hand living at 500m in front of the antenna exposes to a good electromagnetic dose ...

The exposure times and the "doses" received influence the physiological consequences, which can themselves be very variable from one individual to another.

I think moderate use of the laptop is acceptable, as is moderate exposure to the sun.

The problem is that most of the users are urban, so some of them are in areas of strong EM radiation at all times.

Even by multiplying the relay antennas to lower the "average" field, it is impossible to do otherwise ...

Is the laptop essential? I think not.

[dedeleco]

living just below the antenna is almost harmless,

in theory, never exact in reality, because always with complex disturbances, other metallic parts, pylon of the antenna, concrete iron, components of quadrupolar radiation, of higher order, etc.
In addition there are antennas with many inhabitants in the building opposite sometimes less than 20 m (width of a street in town) and even closer in the building next door !!!!

So you have to be very wary of the perfect scientific certainties intended to put us to sleep with a perfect dipole of an antenna which emits power worthy of wide open microwaves (which does not have a coupling with a good antenna) !!

The report shows people in the country with more chicks born only after installing the antenna at 40m next and with false human layers.

It shows edemas and cancer !!

Fetuses are hyper sensitive and avoid studies to investigate the effects on them often, as delay of 7 years publishing confirmation that goes unnoticed !! etc ..

There are striking phrases from this lobby:

I don't think you should call the chicken eggs

by one who delayed the publication of the death of these confirmation chicks by 7 years !!
And blocked publication of edemas in rats by its suffocating notoriety !!
Edemas which exist in Sweden but not in France !!!

It is comparable to the Chernobyl cloud which becomes harmless when crossing the Alsace border !!

It is the same method of concealment and lobbying, as for the Picks, pollution, pesticides, asbestos, tobacco, herbicides, GMOs, bisphenol A classified time bomb comparable to distylbene (I was not aware of it), aspartame, nuclear, etc.
(read our Daily Poison, remarkable report!)

[Remundo]

I saw the show, indeed, well done.

Condescending attitude of pro mobile experts. On the other hand the eggs of chickens probably suffered from hyperthermia because of the microwaves, which made abort the fetus: this experience is extreme and does not describe well the local incidences on an adult brain. I preferred the opinion of other researchers over another chemobiological experiment showing that microwaves weaken certain natural protective barriers in the brain.

It's easy to fix the problem: shutdown the laptop.

Going down to 0,6 V / m will probably never be because it is too expensive for degraded service.

I was wondering if we could not in town go through "wifi". In the countryside, we can install very radiant relay pilones with less discomfort for the inhabitants. In town, it's impossible because it's too dense.

But overall,
1) the "Society" considers that the advantage of the portable (financial or communicational) outweighs a few thousand people potentially suffering from the waves.
2) health problems are still unclear and poorly quantified

This is where the 2 nodes of the problem are.

[Christophe]

Info and messages and debate to put / do here: https://www.econologie.com/forums/ondes-elec ... 10188.html

Read the very good Belgian federal guide to download which concerns all EM waves, not just microwaves, extract:

Since April 3, 2009, in Wallonia, a decree applies to fixed transmitting antennas with a power of more than 4 W (9 document 5). This decree limits the electromagnetic field to 3 V / m per antenna (the standard is identical for all radio frequencies)

It is (to be checked), at another 21V / m in France, right?

See another report to see in French: https://www.econologie.com/video-telepho ... -2444.html (it also includes the experience of eggs)

ps: I only have 41 seconds on the 1st dede link, normal?

[Christophe]

More in the subject of "crondes" ovens, I found here http://www.health.belgium.be/eportal/Se ... /index.htm

THE USE OF MICROWAVE OVENS https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... ZrXtWO.pdf

4 summary pages

1 PROBLEM

Following the publication of the article "Are microwave ovens really dangerous for our health?" », The question arises whether the use of these ovens is harmful to health, especially when preparing food for toddlers and, if using these ovens the vitamins disappear.

2 GENERAL

The article is not scientific. It mainly includes allegations and references to alleged harmful effects relating to the use of microwave ovens. The article is also accompanied by comments and the preamble is from the editor. The latter says he does not yet have a final opinion on
formulate on the existence of a transformation possibly harmful for foodstuffs during the use of the microwave oven. Following the article, however, he felt that the use of the microwave oven should be limited for safety reasons. The editor invites the readers to point out the "detailed" arguments, which were formulated against or in favor of the assertions appearing in the article. In the margin of this, a certain precautionary measure is formally recommended with regard to the bottles to be heated and reheated for infants.

(...)

Many jurisdictions and organizations have examined the dispersion of the radiation released from microwave ovens. A recent and comprehensive study on this subject was carried out by VITO in October 1993. This study concludes that this dispersion is far below the Belgian standard which allows a dispersion of 5 mW / cm2. This means that there is no reason to worry about it.

We also observe that during a diathermic medical treatment on the human body, more than 10 mW / cm2 are released without any scientific indication concerning the harmful effects.

(...)

6 RADIATION OF MICROWAVE EMITTED BY PROCESSED FOOD

Microwaves are mainly absorbed by the water which is abundantly present in food. The water molecule is a polar molecule, which means that the positive and negative charges of the molecule do not match. By the force created, by alternating an electric field like that of microwaves,
water molecules will try to align with the alternating field. Consequently, the kinetic energy of the molecule will increase, which raises the temperature. As soon as the microwave energy is interrupted, this alignment stops and a natural emanation of heat arises as for all
objects that have a temperature above zero.

7 MICROWAVE DETERIORATES FOOD

The molecules can eventually integrate or absorb the energy released by radiation and transform it into another type of energy. The energy diffused by the microwaves is absorbed and transformed into heat. A biological substance like food will therefore heat up by absorbing microwaves. The scientific world is not yet unanimous regarding this phenomenon.

(??)

ps: who reproduced the crystallization tests of water passed in the microwave before freezing of Emoto, easy to do for all! (it itches)

It is mentioned in the masters of water https://www.econologie.com/les-maitres-d ... t-134.html
wiki: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto