Rajqawee wrote:
This is not so much what is happening, from my point of view. Since we are putting in place / we have put in place, many means of living or surviving without being profitable. It is ... precisely mass unemployment.
Yes, but the system and the proponents of the system preferred only the profitable, as long as it was done.
It is the "spirit" of the heart of the capitalist system.
After that, you have to deal with reality. (poor bastards!
)
Rq: Possibly you have integrated the "profitable" in your mind as a necessary prerequisite without questioning it?
What would be the sign that you accept capitalism and its consequences without being really critical?As told
Ahmed it is the improvement in productivity (to be more profitable than the neighbor, or innovation to simply exist) that induces mass unemployment.
In France I have 25 million productive and 42 million unproductive, which makes 62% of assisted
.
We need 37% of the population to feed 100%.
Robotized from above and many people are no longer "profitable".
Unless you kill people
, it shows that we must change the economic model and not rely on the growth necessary for capitalism and for it alone, when a certain standard of living is reached, as in the OECD.
As already said, satisfactory and stable living conditions are enough to ensure our survival. Humanly, there is no longer this need to grow in the OECD, anyway.
And yet it is necessary, we are told ...
-> See the currency-debt
Rajqawee wrote:
Having a comfort, a salary, the possibility of consuming, a roof, food, that is only enough for a time.
But this is the basis for the rest.
Rajqawee wrote:
For an individual to feel fulfilled and happy, it will take more than that. And in particular a feeling of usefulness, of participation in the construction of his own life and in the society in which he lives.
Absolutely, then when you see that 62% of the population is not useful for pure production except by being a consumer, it is good that we have to find meaning elsewhere than in profitable / productive work and not trying to adapt to a system that will reject people one day or another, becoming more and more productive.
The ultimate being total robotization and robots that maintain themselves. Man becomes useless.
And there you can rack your brains to occupy your life!
I reassure you, we find. (Arts, research, spirituality etc.)
Personally, I am floating between universal income or a world without money but with rights and duties.
Rajqawee wrote: ABC2019 wrote:and that you seem to have admitted that everyone could have this comfort of life in a sustainable way and without consuming non-renewable resources ... which is not the case anywhere in fact, and which is precisely the problem.
Yes ! So it may be that we need to review the way of life or reorientate priorities, to find a situation where satisfaction is achieved in a sustainable way.
Already said a thousand times
ABC, it is not a question of no longer consuming non-renewable resources at all but of drastically reducing this consumption by producing sustainable, repairable and recyclable products.
Already said a thousand times to
ABC, of course it is done nowhere since it is prohibited by capitalism which asks in a perverse way the financially profitable.
It is much more profitable to produce goods quickly obsolete, than to produce goods that will last 100 years or more. It costs less instantly, it sells well.
In addition, a good that will last 100 years or more, you do not buy any soon ...
How does the business that needs to sell to be profitable to survive?
Today, all of our decision-making / thinking capacity is circumscribed in capitalism. It is impossible to establish sustainability or degrowth while keeping capitalism.
There is indeed a conscious choice to be made between the
development and
profitable. (if we want to survive with dignity)
and I do not see a possible smooth transition, the two being incompatible, one destroys the other.
whatever.
We will try the 3 posts per day max