Technical controversy on the deviation of the field of a magnet

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by quartz » 01/12/08, 13:45

Hello everybody :D

I started setting up with the elements that I already have, you will recognize them.
The rest in pictures as they say.
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Tests during the week.

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by Capt_Maloche » 01/12/08, 21:35

hi quartz :D


I can not wait to see it
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by quartz » 04/12/08, 22:34

Good evening everyone, :D

Not yet had time to take measurements today, on the previous design,
However I worked a little evening on another design,
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For the moment it is what offers the best Amperes / deflection turns ratio.

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by Capt_Maloche » 05/12/08, 13:22

Well yes, we can't wait to know if the diverted and "usable" flow for a movement will be greater than the flow generated for the deflection

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by quartz » 05/12/08, 13:37

Hello everybody :D

The displacement of the flow will be exploitable, no doubt,
however the final energy ratio, there must be seen.

I have the intuition that this type of concept would work better in electromechanical form,
namely in the form of an alternator.
Indeed, there is little chance that the inductor element (magnet of the rotor) is repelled when approaching the induced pole.
Induction being a secondary effect of the movement of the flow,
to check therefore, but mechanical objects are more difficult to implement, at least with my means.

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by Padawan » 09/09/09, 14:17

hello I put in context what I said in the subject of my Curie oscillator: https://www.econologie.com/forums/oscillateu ... t8343.html

NOTE: I had fun repeating the experiments of the magnetic fields deviated from permanent magnets and it works with thunder !! as I had said to Quartz, it was enough to calculate the coils to deflect the magnetic fluxes of the magnets .... I made a mini crane which with its permanent magnet system I can lift up to 1 kg and drop it my load I just need to divert the flows thanks to the coils and powered by a 4.5V flat battery (cool! no!). Lots of work (mechanical)
provided by the magnets to lift and hold the load
and little energy to "let go". I find this system very interesting and I will propose it for a study to the students .... I know the deviated flows are patented but I wondered! are you aware of lifting systems with this process because I search on the internet but! nothing found !?
I will do a video with pictures and film of my demo lifting system .....
May the force (econological) be with you!
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by Capt_Maloche » 09/09/09, 14:55

With joy, :D

Knowing the laws of nature, I suppose that the energy necessary for the deflection is greater than the result of the mechanically exploitable magnetic field, the first tests of our friend Quartz (which I salute in passing) have revealed the outline and the principle of this deviation

the form of the assembly is of paramount importance, and there are undoubtedly great improvements to be made

basically, the assembly for the verification would consist in replacing your load carried by an inductive coil which would feed via a small alternative discharge circuit the deflection coil

it would be really interesting not?
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by Padawan » 09/09/09, 15:14

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xafkqe_grue-fluxmagnetiquedevie
a mini demo.
does anyone know if lifting cranes use this principle?

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by quartz » 09/09/09, 15:32

Hello everybody :D

Hello Capt,
Yes Padawan, the lifting concept has been patented for ages,
It is especially used with a deflection by rotation of a permanent magnet
I discovered that well after my tests, come see here.

At the same time the amount of electrical energy when we deflect with a coil,
Is equal or slightly lower than the traction obtained, it is a fact.
Because, of course, we practice a vector addition of flows.
this in static mode, in dynamic mode nothing works.
The force against electromotive is directly proportional,
To make an image, you must first push the field of magnets, (1st FCEM), then create a flux instead, (2nd FCEM).
You will understand that I caricature, nothing is separated of course.

That said, the sponge is not thrown away, as I continue to work on the flow diversion,
I work on the concept of the MPI group, the simulations are promising.
A few measures remain to be implemented,

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by Padawan » 09/09/09, 16:12

Hello Quartz! Thank you !

yes i knew all that but i still can't find the patent or identical systems..your image does not reflect my video !?
finally enough to put the students on a real basis (documentation or reading of the patent) ... I'm not talking about a unitary system .... even in transformer or motor mode because I don't think we will improve anything !!
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