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by Grelinette » 11/10/15, 21:44

Did67,

Thanks for all the details ...

That said, this BRF, which may be "gold bar for the gardens" begins to become invasive in front of my house so there are so many! : Mrgreen: (The brushcutter was happy to come unload his truck ...).
I will probably spread it to the harrow on the ground so that it degrades faster.

In any case, there are now curious mushrooms that grow on it, the pile really keeps the moisture under 5 cm thick, and there are lots of animals that come to scrape in, including wild boars ( I do not know what they are looking for), and another animal comes to make galleries, but I do not think it's a rabbit; this big pile of big BRF has become a real biotope.

Chatelot16, if you have a trick to turn this big BRF into combustible material for wood stove, I'm interested!
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by chatelot16 » 11/10/15, 23:18

there is no need to convert the brf into fuel, it is naturally fuel, it is enough to store it dry so that the grill does not destroy it by slow combustion

the real problem is to find a home that burns it effectively ... at home it's a pile of brick with a canister vacuum powered at low voltage that blows below
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by Grelinette » 12/10/15, 09:21

chatelot16 wrote:there is no need to convert the brf into fuel, it is naturally fuel, it is enough to store it dry so that the grill does not destroy it by slow combustion

the real problem is to find a home that burns it effectively ... at home it's a pile of brick with a canister vacuum powered at low voltage that blows below

For the storage of BRF dry is easy, but for the ventilated boiler, it is still inconvenient for indoor heating! ...

As it is announced a fall of the temperatures as of next week, I will try the experiment of the wooden log and I will give you a little feedback.
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by Did67 » 12/10/15, 10:56

Grelinette wrote:Did67,

Thanks for all the details ...

That said, this BRF, which may be "gold bar for the gardens" begins to become invasive in front of my house so there are so many! : mrgreen: (the brush cutter was very happy to come and unload his truck ...).
I will probably spread it to the harrow on the ground so that it degrades faster.



1) Happy man! I try to educate my neighborhood so that we stop burning waste and bring it to me, but it is not accepted! I had to race with my own neighbor, who severely pruned 4 birch trees and wanted it to be clean right away! So he lit the fire, while I took out my chipper! And I had to negotiate for him to grant me 24 hours! Ah, "cleanliness" at the cost of smoking a neighborhood ... There would be a lot to say about human stupidity !!

2) But indeed, all excess is ... excessive and becomes a problem!

3) Yes, spread it out as quickly as possible, if you want to have a positive effect on the soil, beyond the simple cover: stimulation of living organisms, including fungi; humification; structuring of the soil (natural formation of "fine earth" - we also speak of degradation, a neologism invented to say the opposite of degradation) ...

You will see that without any tillage, you will have "couscous" in one or two years. Lived!

And in heaps, the decomposition is already starting. It is a loss of organic matter, which goes up in the air. In "smoke" in a way - in fact, in gas and heat! Even if you don't miss some, it's probably the most digestible part that goes first ... It's a shame. As much as the living things in your soil will not have! [I recommend that you read “Collaborating with bacteria and other microorganisms” by Jeff Lowenfels and Wayne Lewis / Ed du Rouergue; a superb panorama of all the life of the soil, which must be taken care of, first by nourishing it, then by avoiding destroying it - tillage -, finally, by avoiding mistreating it - compacting, trampling ...]

4) Compared to the cypress trees mentioned above, I forgot to specify that certain plants are rather negative: thuja, yews, and undoubtedly cypress ... They produce "terpene" derivatives which are somewhat antibiotics. .

Classically, they are avoided in a compost / BRF ...

5) The issue of the diseases mentioned must be put into perspective: almost all serious or even "fatal" diseases are extremely specific and are not transmitted to other plants; no probability that the cypress canker is transmitted to your tomatoes, or your strawberries, or your raspberries ... [I am not a canker specialist, but the opposite would surprise me]

On the other hand, I avoid "covering" on the spot with the scraps of size: for example, my waste of raspberry pruning will be chopped and distributed where I will put cabbages, and not under the raspberries - cabbages which will not catch , if they were to persist, none of the raspberry diseases ...

So I recommend, there too, as for vegetables, to practice a rotation (except that it is the organic matter which "burps"!)

There is little chance, if you put this product on your garden, that there are the same plants as those which have been cleared / trimmed? So I would not worry.
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by chatelot16 » 12/10/15, 11:17

Grelinette wrote:For the storage of BRF dry is easy, but for the ventilated boiler, it is still inconvenient for indoor heating!


why impractical? the vacuum used to blow under fire is very quiet given its low speed of rotation, the firepower is quite stable despite the poor quality of the fuel when I crushed brush or old rotten wood

for a complete silence it is possible to put the vacuum cleaner in another room, with a pipe of the length that we want
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by chatelot16 » 12/10/15, 11:38

Did67 wrote:1) Happy man! I try to educate my neighborhood so that we stop burning waste and bring it to me, but it is not accepted! I had to race with my own neighbor, who severely pruned 4 birch trees and wanted it to be clean right away! So he lit the fire, while I took out my chipper! And I had to negotiate for him to grant me 24 hours! Ah, "cleanliness" at the cost of smoking a neighborhood ... There would be a lot to say about human stupidity !!


this craze to burn everything in vain is very sad

when I recover this kind of wood, it is useful heating and saves other energy source

I leave a place in front of me allowing to deposit the branch to grind, but the low flow of my previous grinder was that the pile of branch could wait too long ...

I went to the waist above: http://www.agram.fr/broyeur-dechiqueteu ... r-600.html with that the heap of jumbo branch goes into 1 / 4 of time: it makes everything disappear even faster than the fire!

I put the end of a branch and it swallows everything, it has enough strength to bend the small branch and get in ... sometimes some big branching does not pass the first time: there is a reverse on hydraulic motor in advance, it allows to highlight what does not pass, to give a shot of a tronconeuse

it's much too big for brf, bigger than the wafer sold for wafer boilers

to make the BRF it would be possible to invent a system to sort: use the heavier piece of heat, and switch to brf the lightest: sorting system by wind, and iron in a small grinder to make real brf
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by Ahmed » 12/10/15, 12:25

Chatelot, you write:
to make the BRF, it would be possible to invent a system to sort: use heating the heavier pieces and switch to brf lighter: wind sorting system, and iron in a small crusher to make real brf .

It's easier than the wind: it's called ballistic sorting ...
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by Did67 » 12/10/15, 13:40

I do not see what would prevent having larger "turbines", with more powerful engines, capable of swallowing up to 7 or 8 cm ... [I am speaking in relation to my small domestic BOSCH "turbicut grinder "; which indeed has a slow flow, but is not too noisy; the turbine cuts strips of wood, which in addition undergo a kind of "bending" or "twisting" hence the fact that they are "crumbled" - I will take pictures at the next opportunity - therefore easily attacked by mushrooms]

Afterwards, in fact, for the larger diameters, I think it is better to use as fuel ... Or as a "charbonnette" and to gasify ...

For the BRF, the top remains the use of "branches", so branches of less than 7 or 8 cm. It is this living wood which has the best effects on the garden (even if we can also cover the ground with "dead wood", as I indicated above, even with bark, but without having all the benefits. of the BRF; therefore some sorting is necessary, if we want to work properly - let's say "optimally")
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by chatelot16 » 12/10/15, 14:43

the grinder agram which I just spoke swallows up to 14cm diameter, and swallows at a speed of 0,2m / s! so to get rid is faster than fire

for me it's just fuel because I do not need brf, but when I'm milling wood, everything goes from big to small branches and leaves

it is by unloading the big trailer that it could be useful to find a way to sort the wood which is the best fuel, is the piece of small branch which would have more value in brf.

according to the seller at agram, those who buy this stuff only use it to debass and facilitate the transport to the discharge, do not use it to make fuel because it is grinded too big for the boiler a booklet

for a good valuation of the green waste, it is really the good boiler which remains to manufacture!
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by chatelot16 » 12/10/15, 14:48

Ahmed wrote:Chatelot, you write:
to make the BRF, it would be possible to invent a system to sort: use heating the heavier pieces and switch to brf lighter: wind sorting system, and iron in a small crusher to make real brf .

It's easier than the wind: it's called ballistic sorting ...


if I have room on the grinding site, the grinder itself does it: I direct the chute to throw as far as possible, the hunk goes far and the little piece falls closer

but in general the goal is to get rid quickly and cleanly, so chute directed to put everything in the trailer and not next ... the yard will be useful when I ask for brf ... currently it is only to burn so not need to sort
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