Joe Cell, debates and internet links

[davidofMtl]

Hello everybody

I am a member of several English discussion lists on the Joe Cell and have been interested in this subject for over a year. I have read a lot and I have experienced and seen with my own eyes changes in the property of water through the Joe Cell specific electrolysis process.

More and more scientists and engineers are participating in the news group in order to understand all the parameters of this system. There is no consensus at the moment as to what is the origin of the reaction happening in the Joe Cell. Is it a form of cold fusion, negative electricity, orgone? But everyone agrees that there are interesting reactions and a form of energy to explore in order to master and make it accessible to all.

I therefore invite you to continue reading, researching and experimenting before studying the phenomenon.

to help you, here are some relevant links:
(almost all of it is in English but if you are willing to help me translate documents, I am setting up a French-speaking site dedicated to this technology and I will be grateful to you.)

http://divadjac.googlepages.com/libre ---> introduction in French
http://www.joecell.com.au/ ----> official site
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http://www.joecell.info/ (mirror site)

http://educate-yourself.org/fe/fejoewatercell.shtml ---> good history review and information here

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Joe_Cells ---> good information and links here

http://www.byronnewenergy.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ---> another australian site where the technology originated. They call it "cosmic water cell" but it's the same system

http://www.thejoecell.com/index.html

http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/joece ... tdraw1.htm
http://www.nutech2000.com/category2_1.htm
http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/joece ... exjoe1.htm
http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/linkpages/joecell.htm
http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/joece ... twork.html
---> they do sell documentation and ready-made Joe cells but I strongly suggest that you study thoroughly before purchasing their model.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/ ---> 1st Yahoo group on the subject, more than 1000 members

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoesCell2 ... =224525992 ---> second Yahoo group, too, more than 1000 members

http://www.joecell.co.uk/forum/ ----> a forum recent

http://www.boomp.com/board/index.php?mforum=joecell ------> a new one forum

online version of the Alex Shiffer manual:
http://energy21.freeservers.com/orgone.html
http://energy21.freeservers.com/as101.htm
note: there are updates available in the files of the first forums.

to see videos on the subject:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=%22Joe+Cell%22

http://pesn.com/2006/04/13/9600257_Bill ... hreatened/ ---> an American was threatened after having made work his Ford truck on the Joe cell only, the arrival of gasoline completely disconnected.

http://www.thelastfourbooks.com/Joe_Cell/ ---> interesting experiment with the Joe Cell and a new design called the Moe-Joe Cell. We can see several photos of the water having reached "stage 3", a stage at which the water retains a sufficient charge to continue a certain electrolysis without any source of electricity. at this point, the esu can run an internal combustion engine.

other site related to the subject:
http://twelvestar.com/Sourceworks/Joe%20Cell.html
http://www.val.hr/znanje/autoorgon.html ---> see the picture at bottom of the page
http://astrosa.com/n99to01/n1001.htm
http://www.silent-running.com/cell/wilspics.htm
http://www.silent-running.com/cell/INDEX.HTM
http://home.arcor.de/freie.energie/joezel01/joezellen01
http://ringorgone.bravehost.com/ ---> (Ringo's) Joe Cell website lots of info here and good video documentation of his work
http://ringorgone.bravehost.com/movies.html
http://www.myspace.com/joecell
http://joecell.cloud.prohosting.com/
http://www.twelvestar.com/Sourceworks/Joe%20Cell.html
http://atl2.netfirms.com/engy/mutch/mat ... oecell.htm
http://www.energygrid.com/science/2002/as-joecell.html
http://astrosa.com/n99to01/n1001.htm
http://www.tweek.live.com.au/index.htm
http://www.tinmantech.com/html/faq__sta ... joe-c.html

http://www.avianacres.com/phenom.wmv ----> a video of charging effect on water

All science is impossible, as long as it is not proven, and this is where we come in.

David J.

[geotrouvetout]

Hi davidofMtl

thanks for the links, I allowed myself to pass them on forum:

http://essenceciel.tk.free.fr/phpBB2/index.php

GEO (Ex Montrealer).

[gegyx]

Thank you for the links, and your desire for French translation.
I do not hide from you, that Joe Cell, I like it well, and that I tend rather for soft methods, to make evolve, incline nature to a transformation, but, with all these explanations in English, and the various experiences reported , I still did not represent myself well, the process clear, and what are called internships. If there was another introductory French link to identify the challenge, I would be grateful if you would point it out.
The energy which crosses the metal of the carburetor, hard to swallow ...

Can the bubbles burn with a flame, to use them with a blowtorch, or for domestic heating? What would be more immediate and more profitable than using it to drive my bump in the car…

[davidofMtl]

Hi "Gegyx",

The bubbles burn or rather explodes or even possibly implodes when you reach "stage 3". I do not believe that the potential is really in a heating system because very little heat is generated and possibly, no heat at all in the case of implosion. it is therefore probably a driving energy.

I have not yet done the test myself to verify that it is implosion, but those who did it noted these details:

1-no yellow flame (as is the case with hydrogen normally)
2-a very loud sound that hurts the ears, some have reported having damaged the eardrums accidentally with a spark by disconnecting the contact with the voltage still active. A spark and then ZOOOM!

apparently, the eardrums, would tolerate a sucking month less than a pressure and it would be more painful. I'm going to equip myself with earplugs and headphones and I'm going to experiment to see what it really is.

David J.

[zac]

apparently, the eardrums, would tolerate a sucking month less than a pressure and it would be more painful. I'm going to equip myself with earplugs and headphones and I'm going to experiment to see what it really is.

David J.

Hello
put on glasses and keep your mouth open it will be more efficient, if you put balls and a helmet the depressions will be the same on both sides. What you have to do is let the pressure go. Do not take the test if you have a cold or an ear infection and clean your ears well before.
I hope these few tips will save your eardrums, but not too stupid the eardrums it's fragile and the open mouth method will not protect you if you have to be a blaster (we just die)!

[wirbelwind262]

Hello !
Pay particular attention to the volume of gas!
Avoid ending up in the gas!
well then, you don't play with nitroglycerin ........
Achtung and @ +!

[thier13]

Bof! I don't believe in joe cell

[Christophe]

Bof! I don't believe in joe cell

No better ... and all those who have worked a little seriously on Joe Cell and Meyer will tell you the same ...

We know that doping with pantone water works so I don't see pkoi we continue to waste time with these "solutions" which are not ...

[davidofMtl]

I do not force anyone to believe it but I base myself on my observations and knowledge to consider that there is matter to deepen. And it's worth it because the stakes are enormous.

When several people obtain results that do not agree with the logic of science as it was conceived in 2006, some will discard the results that they cannot explain, others will continue the experiments and try to understand what happens. It is thanks to people of this 2nd category that science, as we know it today, is no longer the same as that taught in 1492 and hopefully will no longer be the same science as that taught in 2025.

I belong to this 2nd category.

In fact, I am a skeptic who wants to understand.

I added links on my website, it's pretty rough and it's progressing slowly but with a little time I will have a little more substance.
http://divadjac.googlepages.com/libre

thanks for the explosion test tips. I will try to film with visual witnesses like ribbons and I will upload on google video to show the results.

David J.

[Bibiphoque]

...
I added links on my website, it's pretty rough and it's progressing slowly but with a little time I will have a little more substance.
http://divadjac.googlepages.com/libre
...

David J.

Hello,
Very "clean" your little site is almost beautiful!
I like this presentation little loaded, at least, we do not get lost in unnecessary corners.
(Finally, it may be normal since it is recent.)
Only complaint: the spelling, can't you check before posting it to your site? (There are automatic programs that are almost good for that )
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