I have been interested for a long time in the concept of an engine built only from permanent magnets.
Total utopia or serious hopes?
I have no certainty on this subject as the different examples presented remain vague and very poorly explained, (intentionally?). All the more so since a number of stakeholders who have their hands on their hearts, affirm everything and its opposite, seem for the most part to have no more knowledge than me in matters of magnetism.
Having had no experience, I will ask a question that I will try to make as clear as possible:
Imagine the construction of a row of spaced magnets, held inclined in a non-magnetic material, having a bevelled end, and all presenting by this bevelled end the same pole towards the top. the whole having the appearance of a "rail" with a flat upper surface
Let us imagine above another row of magnets, bevelled with the same angle, also immobilized in a non-magnetic material, this row included in any "carriage" above the "rail", presenting the bevelled end facing those of the " rail "so that the distance between the upper and lower magnets, on the one hand remains constant, and on the other hand allows the repulsion of the magnets facing each other by poles of the same nature. The" carriage "can slide above the "rail" by a mechanical system that I let you imagine
Here is my clear question which admits only a clear answer:
YES or NO will the cart be moved?
If YES and imagining the "rail" of infinite length, WHERE and WHEN will the trolley stop?
Thank you to those who will answer me for staying simple and logical and not to try to drown the fish in muddy explanations.
We may then be able to continue the exchange!
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The problem is that there is always a "breakpoint"
Some have solved the problem by electronic synchronization + electromagnet processing.
Go see on Youtube: always the same problem: an American gives you a quarter of an hour of explanation of his thing, to end up showing you something that does not work.
We've been talking about Johnson, Perendev, Minato, etc. for years, but nothing has been marketed, no convincing demonstration has been organized. For example, I recently denounced that 5 years later .... there was no longer any trace on the internet of the 40.000 fans of Minato: not even a disgruntled user. Weird, right? https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteurs-mi ... t1144.html
Check out sites like Jean Louis Naudin, Overunity, and all of the linked sites and don't spend your money on plans.
I suggest that you end the discussion here and transfer it to the subject "magnetic motors of all kinds": read it entirely and you will be faced with the harsh reality:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteurs-ma ... t1646.html
Some have solved the problem by electronic synchronization + electromagnet processing.
Go see on Youtube: always the same problem: an American gives you a quarter of an hour of explanation of his thing, to end up showing you something that does not work.
We've been talking about Johnson, Perendev, Minato, etc. for years, but nothing has been marketed, no convincing demonstration has been organized. For example, I recently denounced that 5 years later .... there was no longer any trace on the internet of the 40.000 fans of Minato: not even a disgruntled user. Weird, right? https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteurs-mi ... t1144.html
Check out sites like Jean Louis Naudin, Overunity, and all of the linked sites and don't spend your money on plans.
I suggest that you end the discussion here and transfer it to the subject "magnetic motors of all kinds": read it entirely and you will be faced with the harsh reality:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteurs-ma ... t1646.html
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Re: magnetic motors
GUEGAN DANIEL wrote:I have been interested for a long time in the concept of an engine built only from permanent magnets.
Here is my clear question which admits only a clear answer:
YES or NO will the cart be moved?
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There, the ball goes up, and the suspicious bees flow
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm
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OUiiiiiiiiiii, but that's it! No one has yet bothered to loop around fifty SMOTs? Even JLN! Why ?
Are we sure that the ball will not magnetize and stall?
Are we sure that the ball will not magnetize and stall?
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It is a good remark.
But not an end.
The strangest, is it not, scientific contempt, even public hatred, against the exploitation of the remarkable properties offered by the magnetism of permanent magnets and the modification of the gravitational fields ...
And therefore practical applications which result from it.
But not an end.
The strangest, is it not, scientific contempt, even public hatred, against the exploitation of the remarkable properties offered by the magnetism of permanent magnets and the modification of the gravitational fields ...
And therefore practical applications which result from it.
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Public hatred, however not, on the contrary, I believe that many want to dream .... except those who come back proud of having retained the law of conservation of energy.
Still, I remain intrigued by this phenomenon:
Naudin tried SMOT but did not go all the way
A lot of people are talked about: Perendev, Minato, etc.
And then ... more news.
Still, I remain intrigued by this phenomenon:
Naudin tried SMOT but did not go all the way
A lot of people are talked about: Perendev, Minato, etc.
And then ... more news.
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Imagine for a moment that it works ...
So at each turn, in the absence of load (and even with), there would be energy that would accumulate in the "thing"? So kinetic and energetic runaway ....
Where would it end? At the appearance of a new star? From a black hole?
I think that the only credible way of research in this field is nanotechnology ... see the subject of the engine by capillarity: https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteur-par ... t9354.html
+ exploitation of the casimir effect but I believe that the capillarity is more accessible ...
But that does not answer the question of kinetic runaway ...
So at each turn, in the absence of load (and even with), there would be energy that would accumulate in the "thing"? So kinetic and energetic runaway ....
Where would it end? At the appearance of a new star? From a black hole?
I think that the only credible way of research in this field is nanotechnology ... see the subject of the engine by capillarity: https://www.econologie.com/forums/moteur-par ... t9354.html
+ exploitation of the casimir effect but I believe that the capillarity is more accessible ...
But that does not answer the question of kinetic runaway ...
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I don't think there is enough material on earth to make "too much" energy.
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moving magnets
I had asked a clear and precise technical question, I asked for equally clear and precise technical answers. I obtained pseudo-philosophical muddy answers, others rather falling under obscurantist dogmas.
FAREWELL to all
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