I went to express myself on a forum:
http://www.geostrategique.net/viewsujet ... c&start=60
I only realized that the forum is very pro-nuclear oriented, to be better at home so I came to your home.
Below the texts that belong to me, the questions I must not have the right to pumped them because they are not intended for this forum, his answers will no doubt make you react, it's an idea to me this global network to avoid storing energy, it's published here, like that, a general patent if it were possible, will not be admissible if you oppose citizens. To read again Greetings.
Blain JY
27/10/2010 5h52
Hello
The photovoltaic is not so aberrant, on my roof I have 20m2 panel, inclined to 30 °, facing south, located between Angers and Nantes, the production since commissioning in September 2008 is 6564 Kw / h, the consumption of the house is 6900 Kw / h over the same period, (heating and hot water are heated with fuel and pellets), production is more important in summer than winters, production is more active when air conditioning systems and cold rooms work consistently. In France the nuclear power regularly supplies its energy, the photovoltaic is performent during the peaks of production consecutive to the cooling systems.
More generally if in the world we agree, we can always dream, buildings and deserts receive enough energy to meet the electricity needs, it is enough to connect all this beautiful world so that the energy is transported productions to the needs, without taking the cabbage for stories of storage and space production.
Greetings
27/10/2010 7h56
It is not a matter of being dependent but of exchanging its differentiated productions, the planet is round the sun always shines and all the productions are connected, the current is consumed everywhere, more or less strong according to the needs.
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28/10/2010 11h10
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It is not me who says that the construction of photovoltaics consumes more energy than it will produce.
The elements that I can give you:
The processing of the files, the owner's movements, 10 liters of fuel maxi (travel fair and postage mail)
The installation made by small business of two people in two days, they made four trips canvassing included, so 120km with a vehicle that consumes 8litres about a hundred, which is 10 liter of fuel. This company to exist therefore to a local that to heat uses 15 liters of fuel in annual average for 3 days (3 days: 2 days of installation, a day of treatment of file).
So for the commercial part and laying 35 liters of fuel.
The other elements are to ask the manufacturers of photovoltaic panels, (a factory that produces ........... m2 of photovoltaic panels in the year, consumes ............ ..litre of fuel for heating and displacements + displacements of the employees, workers, and do not forget the subcontracting), to divide total by the number of m2 produced with the year, to multiply is numbered by 20 m2 and you will have the number of liters of fuel used to manufacture the panels, to which must be added the proportion of the power consumption of the various stations.
Do not forget the construction of the inverter and multiply by two because it is necessary to provide a service life of 10in use for an inverter.
The panels work 20ans, at the rate of 3169 KWH per year, so it is 63380 KWH after 20ans.
So if the amount of fuel used to install and build the kit is able to provide more (63380 KWH minus the power consumption required for this same manufacturing) in a thermal power plant, we must ask the question of subsidizing a technology to negative return?
Greetings
29/10/2010 11h40
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To compare with the nuclear one which is a world marginal production, it is not a good idea, on the scale of the planet the nuclear could not make the needs of the earthlings more than 10 answering.
Overall, if I understand correctly with our current world consumption, we have only 140 years of energy in the cash drawer, as well saying that it is high time to move the ass, knowing that it takes energy to design future energy sensors, and that the design of these sensors must restore more energy than it took to design them, if a solar sensor returns the double of energy it took it to design it, the double reserves, it's not terrible have gone from 140 years to 280 years, it will be good to prove that with a solar collector we can provide enough energy to build 2, and there the planet to the future, and we would leave these fossil fuels in their corners, in case an urgent need of energy for future generations. Below the sources. Greetings
Wikipedia Origin of the world's power generation in 2007http: //fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_d'%C3%A9lectricit%C3%A9
Thermal energy: 12740 TWh, ie 68%
Hydraulic power: 2999 TWh, ie 16%
Nuclear energy: 2593 TWh, ie 14%
Renewable energies excluding hydraulics: 474 TWh, ie 3%
Wikipedia World Reserves http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraction_de_l'uranium
Proven reserves correspond to one hundred and forty years of production [6], which is a common order of magnitude for mineral exploration; the balance being made when the conditions do not justify an additional prospecting effort [7]. This assessment is highly dependent on economic conditions. According to the Agency for Nuclear Energy, there is still enough uranium to meet global demand for at least a century [8] provided that demand does not increase. The consumption of uranium represents 8% of the energy production against 80% for the oil, if the uranium was to replace the oil would have to divide by ten this duration.
You have solutions, but it is always the looting of existing energy, you push back the deadline, it will one day make the effort to be autonomous compared to the energy that one receives, (finally that they will receive), go to plunder the moon and the surroundings, for the needs of the earthlings, this energy is good where it is to then create bases of launching to get out of here before being definitively fixed there by precisely the lack of energy. It is necessary to look at the speed that the fuel gauge goes down, compared to the very recent beginning that has it put to fire on it.
You do not want any of my planetary network connected to the various systems of solar production and others, without storage because constant planetary consumption and constant reception of the solar radiation.
There is no need to bang on to get juice, everyone is producers and consumers.
Greetings
01/11/2010 1h05
He says himself engineer Gary Johnson:
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/o ... ys-future/
Engineer Gary Johnson is contributing to the future expansion of the merger and states:
"Solar and wind power are interesting technologies that will be part of the answer, but each has its own problems. The wind doesn't always blow, and the sun doesn't always shine."
Am I always beside the plate with my efficient and cheap planetary energy distribution network, because already partially existing?
When you look at a sector, the wind does not always blow and the sun does not always shine, but when you look at the whole world, the earth always gets as much sun and there is always so much wind, and the energy needs of earthlings are globally constant.
It is not necessary to imagine large power plants, in the sunniest places, sensor wear will be slower in less sunny or less windy areas, this offsets the difference in performance at the start, For country problems momentarily incorrect, they will be isolated from the system, as when ERDF cuts a sector, it must be understood that the system is a mesh of cables, with disconnectors one can everywhere and that the producers are distributed and also consumers, it is necessary to compare with what is passes in France with the possible productions, wind + photovoltaic + the production of methane, to imagine that the sun shines on the quarter of France, that it rains on the other quarter, that it faces night on the half, that the wind blows on the quarter of France, that is the winter temperatures on a half of the surface night and the surface covered time, it requires a lot of wind turbines and photovoltaic sensors s, and booster plants that burn the methane, but the area used is not immeasurable.
Greetings.
01/11/2010 8h42
Small complement for photovoltaics:
In
http://www.20minutes.fr/article/589647/ ... ecologique
He is quoted:
--- According to several specialists, spent two and a half years, the energy required for the entire manufacture of panels will be compensated .---
So if it takes 2 years, let us admit 3 years of production in global to recover the energy expended to obtain a system on its roof, only with photovoltaics the planet can turn, can make photovoltaic with photovoltaic, and if in the more there are other solutions ...
02/11/2010 1h13
This is the first series of panels that produces CO2, unless you produce them in nuclear power, after the first series makes, let's admit at worst all-inclusive double (that's a lot more) of panels, you have a free panel production, offered by the sun, you sell on the market completely green panels, because manufactured by the second generation and so on, do not talk to me about price, it's free, the manpower c is money that is given to the worker who spends it as early in the circuit, workers just want to work, especially if the work is not dangerous, extraction, transportation, heating, everything is electric and included in the manufacture, (currently it takes 2ans of exposure to recover the effort of production, subject to the accuracy of the type of exposure, if it is exposed to the maxi, day and night and that the panel is destroyed after 4 years, this e xpression will be fraudulent).
There is no supply problem, silicon is very abundant.
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