[Topic Unique] magnetic motors of any kind!

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by hic » 12/09/14, 18:53

raymon wrote:
Man does not descend from the monkey, you are a monkey Mr. Green


Disagree Hic me I would rather say a donkey.


yet for the moment no one has answered my simple questions!

offering only nonsense!

would therefore be the signature of this forum?? : Shock:




1.The force of repulsion of a magnet is as static (but different no racism please) as the force of a mountain lake


2.The magnets of a brushless motor produce energy instead and in power,
replacement is integral
(a brushless motor has the potential to be half of an autonomous system)

3. to suspend or magnetically stick a Kilo costs 9Kwh / year, even in static it is not free
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by moinsdewatt » 12/09/14, 19:04

Hee Hee Hee.

98 pages after the start of this thread, it is still pedaling in sauerkraut.

By cons with my friends from Alstom, it's going pretty well.
Electric generators of 30 MW, it's not bad.

Alstom: completes assembly of the first rotor for the Manduriacu project

The 01 / 09 / 2014

Alstom finalized the assembly of the first Kaplan rotor for Manduriacu, a hydroelectric plant located on the Guayllabamba river, in the province of Pichincha, in Ecuador. The equipment is part of one of the two Kaplan turbines, of 30 MW each, supplied by Alstom, for a total generation of 60 MW. Alstom is part of a consortium which supplies equipment to the Manduriacu project, in which its share is around 25 million euros

http://www.boursier.com/actions/actuali ... 93269.html
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by elephant » 12/09/14, 19:11

Yesiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin

Mr ! Hic, he's mean to me!

He said:

Too big Mr. Green, it's been a long time since you should have fallen on it


1) I'm not too fat: I went from 76,5 to 69 since May! Yes sir !

2) as I am not passionately about this subject, I still do not know what precise contraption you are talking about! Youtube is full of demos that are too short and unconvincing, especially posted by Americans who are too talkative. Even the HHO, which I have tested, leaves me skeptical. (see subject "improved electrolysis)
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by Capt_Maloche » 12/09/14, 21:59

Well my fat! they make you miserable all these depraved magnetic? : Cheesy:

don't worry, I'm here :D


By the way, how far did you go with your Meyer replica?
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by Obamot » 12/09/14, 23:26

Hic wrote:
Obamot wrote:
Hic wrote:at your level invoke the Ppfff surunity!

What is my "a level", eh? I have a penchant for comedians for the sidewalk opposite : Cheesy:

"overunity" is an insult
I see very well where is your level

Man does not descend from the monkey, you are a monkey : Mrgreen:

Always not!

From brushless to business there's only one step ...! : Mrgreen:

Hic wrote:
Disagree Hic me I would rather say a donkey.


yet for the moment no one has answered my simple questions!


There is no "simple" answer and it's a donkey who tells you : Mrgreen:
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by hic » 13/09/14, 01:28

Hic wrote:
Ahmed wrote:
According to you, a mountain lake would be unusable!
Don't you understand that this is absurd?

This is not what I wrote! Of course the mountain lake is exploitable, not because it is a lake, but because it is (as you yourself specify) mountain.
This is what I wrote above:
... the lake can only update its potential energy by releasing water at a lower level.

In the case of permanent magnets, we are dealing with a force and not an energy, which is very different. I am conscious of repeating, but it is, apparently, not useless ...

I quote you (but it could have been anyone)
permanent magnets = strength
lake with salting out = energy

question: lake without salting out =?

What else?


Where were we?

question: lake without salting out = force

Ahmed you tell c ......
it happens, no complexes!

magnet and lake are forces OK!

they are theoretically exploitable


Thank you for your help and your courtesy that I did not deserve :D

(Sorry if it's my method that shocks you, it's only logic)
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by Ahmed » 13/09/14, 08:31

If your method shocks me, it is only by its illogicality! :D

Your lake is only one mass gain and it's there strength gravity which can, if it is possible to operate a level change on a fraction of the total mass, recover energy ...

I say recover and not produce, in accordance with the first principle of thermodynamics!
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by hic » 13/09/14, 12:31

Ahmed wrote:If your method shocks me, it is only by its illogicality! :D

Your lake is only one mass gain and it's there strength gravity which can, if it is possible to operate a level change on a fraction of the total mass, recover energy ...

I say recover and not produce, in accordance with the first principle of thermodynamics!

Hi Ahmed
Everyone obviously knows,
that a static mountain lake is potential energy

For a suspension with a magnet its replacement requires energy.

The magnet recovers energy of which it is itself the source and produces suspentasion (traditionalist version)

or the magnet doesn't get anything!
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by Obamot » 13/09/14, 14:18

Since Hic likes to quibble with words, quibble! : Cheesy: : Mrgreen:

Hic wrote:
Hic wrote:permanent magnets = strength
lake with salting out = energy

question: lake without salting out =?

What else?

Where were we?


question: lake without salting out = force

1) in "static", the "strength"implies AND is defined as"a mechanical action capable of imposing an acceleration".
So a static lake without salting out (and except infiltration) is a mass gain, epicutout.

Hic wrote:a static mountain lake is potential energy

2) example of a simple mathematical formula (in static) calculation of the "moment":

Force "F" (X)* "lever arm" (on the blades of a turbine).

So no, if a lake is "static", by definition there is no"strength"who can speak, so no"potential energy".

Hic wrote:lake with salting out = energy

3) No, "Potential force"only (and it takes a hydroelectric complex to turn that into"Energy. ")

Hic wrote:question: lake without salting out =?

= Evaporation?

What else?

Hic wrote:magnet and lake are forces OK!

Always not... : Mrgreen: we saw it for the lake.

By cons, magnets is insane.

They do not contain any particular energy. By cons, it takes a lot of energy to make ... And yes, there the dream takes a nasty blow and cost ...!

A magnet does not even contain any source of energy. It just has a constant magnetic field around it.

So if it makes us believe what it makes us believe by being able to move metallic objects, it will take as much force applied to remove them from its attraction ...

What deludes the appreciation is that the only power of a magnet is to deform the ambient magnetic field. We see it in this experiment, just by sprinkling metallic particles (sensitive to its magnetic field) on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV70R8qprQI

Once the particles are realigned, they are stable, static! There is therefore no energy, otherwise it would continue to panic!

By distorting the ambient magnetic field with its own magnetic field, the magnet realigns this field, but once the magnet is removed, the ambient magnetic field takes over!

Besides, a magnet has as much positive as negative field (the poles), it is enough to see the force which it is necessary to apply to the latter, to remove it from a metallic surface to which it would be stuck. CQFD, if there are forces they add up as much as they cancel out to return to equilibrium.

Some people think that we can extract magnets from energy, as we could extract from olive oil, it may be nice to believe it, but it is an urban myth.

More on magnets here (to finally understand):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDOlKllbW2M

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