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Re: Pressure Group




by Obamot » 16/11/10, 13:10

We understood! Fortunately, you are there to awaken our consciences! : Mrgreen:

Horse wrote:Chinese controlled telepathy

How much is CBT in PET ...> ?

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by cheval » 16/11/10, 14:42

No more than 0.4 but it's not a problem. You get 10Kw you need 100, how to do it? because we can not do more, it becomes colossal, and bin we put 10 in linear ...
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by LUX56 » 16/11/10, 17:24

The conspiracy theory dies. :|


Horses
In that purpose the Nuclear Lobby's oil and want to limit the work of independent researchers? In evidament economic purpose.
We wonder just how concretely consicte bin their actions and I will tell you:
in all public finance research projects
(CNRS, CEA, IFREM, SGEGUE, LCPC, BRGM, IRSN, IPEV exIFRTP, CINES CEMAGREF, INRA, IFREMER ...)
and all the organizations direct their research in the direction of their company.

You forget the manufacturers of wind turbines and hydroelectric plants. LOL


Certain that you compile journals, reports and industrial documents, and that you know exactly who does what and that you are very aware of the modes of industrial research funding.


I resume the start of your topic.

Horses

Even if I appear new on the forum it's been a very long time since I look carefully at the topics that seem relevant to me.
But today the situation leads me to speak to everyone.
Everyone here has many reasons to believe that perpetual motion exists but that "researchers" refuse to recognize it out of sheer ideological blindness.
More monstrous pressure from oil and nuclear lobby give no chance to independent researchers!
This is why I would like to create a pressure group for the perpetual motion that is not run by money, but by passion and true science, a group that would defend each relevant project.
Remember, behind every invention there is a man

Long live phylosophy.

Everyone here has many reasons to believe that perpetual movement exists

Not me.

but that the "researchers" refuse to recognize it out of pure ideological blindness.

??????????????? Can you explain please?


More monstrous pressure from oil and nuclear lobby give no chance to independent researchers!

I am under no pressure from anyone.

What allows you to affirm that perpetual movement exists? Are you the greatest scientist in the universe?
First I wish to inform the Gallic I see very clear in his game, you deceive no one here we are not fallen the last molecule H2O, I know perfectly well that you are an important member of a tanker Lobby and the fact that my group pressure from worsening discomfort your small business ...

Yours! A new plot !!! : Evil:

I will reply to reunite and form a group with a T-shaped hierarchy, not pyramidal, more clearly between 8 15 to head according empleur the group and all others are subordinate to the next ...


Good luck. : Mrgreen:

PS: Can you tell us what your professional activity is
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by Gaston » 16/11/10, 17:40

Horse wrote:- Firstly considering the conjuncture which is ours, it would be interesting not to neglect the relationships of synergies already in our possession for the future.
- Second, whatever the inertia induced, one cannot do without being concerned with the totality of the matrix organizations which can be declined with all the required caution.
- Thankfully, as long as the economic austerity lasts, it is preferable to take into consideration the simultaneity of sensible alternatives with all the caution required.
It's amazing how it looks like the text produced by some random generators : Lol:
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by Christophe » 16/11/10, 17:45

Ah no the Gallic works, at worst, for the chicken lobby:

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: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

A) In astrophysics and at the level of the universe it is frankly hard to decide on the presence of an infinite energy (and therefore of the perpetual movement) or not ... At the level of the inventor in his garage it is a lot easier: it's pipo ...

B) The argument of the naughty lobbies is too easy and tires me ... after yes they defend their interests but in the field of perpetual movement they do not have much to defend. : Mrgreen:

Then to think that they control information in the world, at the time of the power of communication of Internet, it is just ridiculous ...the lobby is the only argument left to the inventor who takes his wishes for reality ...
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by elephant » 16/11/10, 17:54

Christopher said:

Then to think that they control the information in the world, at the time of the power of communication of Internet, it is just ridiculous ... the lobby it is the only argument which remains with the inventor who takes his desires for realities ...


to see ... everything gets lost in the background noise, and then, as I said before:

What makes me (censored) is this perpetual confusion between people who have found things, but do not say enough, hoping to touch the jackpot. companies that merge and prove nothing; and people who screw their fingers in the eye or try to be lousy by deceiving the world.

It has become appalling: lots of guys waste a lot of time for Internet users to show things that have nothing to do: example: on Youtube, lots of guys show experiences that do not work (by carefully describing them for tens of minutes.) or are not what they say (the number of guys who put "Meyer" or "HHO" to mount a conventional electrolyser)
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by elephant » 16/11/10, 17:59

That said "pressure group" ...

where will the line be drawn between a group of serious people with POWER (even if only in the media) and a bunch of illuminated people on the wind!

Even if you contact politicians (which is not very difficult), they will be very courteous AND very careful

So .... indisputable facts, please.
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by Obamot » 16/11/10, 20:13

Christophe wrote:Ah no the Gallic works, at worst, for the chicken lobby : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Yes, : Cheesy: and why create a "pressure group" when we could just pay it ...:

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by LUX56 » 16/11/10, 20:56

Yours! I forgot this one
horse wrote:
- Firstly considering the conjuncture which is ours, it would be interesting not to neglect the relationships of synergies already in our possession for the future.
- Secondly, whatever the inertia induced, one cannot do without being concerned with the totality of the matrix organizations which can be declined with all the required caution.
- Thankfully, as long as the economic austerity lasts, it is preferable to take into consideration the simultaneity of sensible alternatives with all the caution required.

To be clear, it is clear. This is the kind of text that is said to drown the fish. Incomprehensible, but Cheval will be happy to detail it and explain the words he uses. In the meantime, a trainee who places this kind of text in a report for me, I stick a zero to him without catching up.

Obamot : What you show us is not a pressure group, but an air compressor, nuance. Anyway, from the beginning, this topic is wind. :P And long live the wind turbines.
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by cheval » 18/11/10, 11:34

To answer lux56
As part of my work, I work with a lot of researchers from the CEA, you will understand that because of the pressure put on the G2P, I cannot tell you which laboratory it is, but I am in a very close institution ( Snack Caravan "Au cheval Joyeux", 100 meters from the laboratory)

Open Tuesday to Sunday 9:30 a.m. to 12 p.m. 14 p.m. to 18:30 p.m.

Prices

Paninis
3 cheeses (Emmental, goat cheese, mozzarella) 4.20 €
American (steak, tomato, emmental, American sauce) 4.20 €
4 cheeses (emmental, goat cheese, mozzarella, roquefort) 4.80 €
Montagnard (raclette, country ham, onion) 4.80 €
Salmon (salmon, crème fraîche, mozzarella, chives) 4.80 €
Tuna (tuna, fresh tomato, cream, mozzarella, chives) 4.80 €
Croque (ham, cheese) 4.20 €
Kebab (turkey meat, salad, tomato, onion, white sauce) 4.50 €
Special Paninis
American Big 6.50 €
(half baguette, tomato, 2 steaks, emmental cheese, American sauce)
American Big Bacon
(half baguette, tomato, 2 steaks, emmental cheese, bacon, American sauce)
Panini Nutella 4.20 €
Panini Nutella- banana 5.00 €
Sauces
Barbecue, curry, mayonnaise, ketchup, pepper, samurai, harissa, mustard, American, white sauce, roquefort, supp. sauce 0.50 €
American
Americans (half baguette, fries)
Choice of steak, sausage, merguez, chicken 4.50 €
Special Americans ……… .. 5.50 €
Full American
(half baguette, salad, tomatoes, onions)
Choice of steak, sausage, merguez or chicken
American Croq '(half baguette, sliced ​​emmental cheese, steak)
American Hotdog (half baguette, Strasbourg sausage, grated emmental)
American Maraîchin (half baguette, vendée ham)
Sandwiches
Ham - butter… .. 2.80 €
Ham- emmental…. € 3.20
Country ham - butter …… 4.00 €
Sausage-butter…. € 3.20
Roast pork-tomato-salad…. € 3.50
Camembert… .. 3.00 €
Full… .. 5.00 €
(half baguette, tomato, salad, hard-boiled egg), with a choice of: chicken / surimi / ham / emmental / roast pork / goat.
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