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it's because I did not say everything
the test with a 100% panton heated with a blowtorch made on a small stationary engine had not brought me much
the test of the heated candle on a petrol engine so reasonably hot did not bring me much either.
As measuring current DC exceed 10 amperes in the car cabin poses a problem, I have to pull a big wire internally with DC amperementric clamp. if really there was something palpable I would be invested more ....
but now I made another modification and in addition I am on a mounting on another engine where the heat will be at most possible on a motor is more than 700c so I would soon be fixed.
At the beginning of the 70 years I also repaired TVs the circuit was with lamps, and I had a lot of time in front of me and a good health, now, I have to make quickly,
I agree that often the visual method and, gel an electronic component and faster in the search.
that's why I can not deepen all the experiences
which seems to me not promising ..
it was I who moved away from the subject by saying that the current increased in the candle when it became red, as it is a specific case to certain materiels, nothing to do with the panton I would have had not to hold account.
As heat addition there is, since the reactor sorie temperature increases by 40c.
What I wanted to hear is those who have experience in the pantons for whom the reactor temperature is the predominant factor of the panton, gives their comments.
I have mounting on two different vehicles a gasoline and diesel very different temperatures,
The efficiency of the reactor is not proportional to the temperature of the reactor, there is a minimum threshold that's all, it's something else that makes it functional, and the big car manufacturers know it.
Andre
[Topic Unique] The Pantone FAQ
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Well, I guess the question has already been asked, but I want to make a pantone first on a lawnmower, according to the plans of onpeutlefaire.com, you need thumbs 1 thumb, 1pouce and 1 / 2 thumb. But these are difficult to find parts (why do not you know), so I thought we could use a simple 3 1 T inch, with a 1 / 2 inch reduction, if it was possible and if someone had already proposed these plans?
I rely on this base:
http://www.onpeutlefaire.com/fichestechniques/ft-pantone.php
I have a lawn mower (and a motor-pump just in case), but I intend adpater thereafter, after choosing the best system bubbler or carburetor (from the pages of M; david http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/PageM_David.htm ), but I will start "like everyone else" with a bubbler of course, with thermostatic valve because the 2cv do not have coolant (it's the Hells in Deuche that will be happy!).
finally here, if you can help me later, for now I gather the parts and passes to the action, because I would like to present it at a local festival mid August.
I also believe a lot in SPAD on tractors but hey I do not! ....
good enough talk I have to go and order these discount T's! I found some recycled tubes, but I have 2mm of space, is it really too much? otherwise I'm going to find the right tube, no lizard! my mower is a briggs & stratton 3.5 Hp.
I also wondered why the site http://kidlogis.com/pmc/forums was no longer accessible, please andré?
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Well, I guess the question has already been asked, but I want to make a pantone first on a lawnmower, according to the plans of onpeutlefaire.com, you need thumbs 1 thumb, 1pouce and 1 / 2 thumb. But these are difficult to find parts (why do not you know), so I thought we could use a simple 3 1 T inch, with a 1 / 2 inch reduction, if it was possible and if someone had already proposed these plans?
I rely on this base:
http://www.onpeutlefaire.com/fichestechniques/ft-pantone.php
I have a lawn mower (and a motor-pump just in case), but I intend adpater thereafter, after choosing the best system bubbler or carburetor (from the pages of M; david http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/PageM_David.htm ), but I will start "like everyone else" with a bubbler of course, with thermostatic valve because the 2cv do not have coolant (it's the Hells in Deuche that will be happy!).
finally here, if you can help me later, for now I gather the parts and passes to the action, because I would like to present it at a local festival mid August.
I also believe a lot in SPAD on tractors but hey I do not! ....
good enough talk I have to go and order these discount T's! I found some recycled tubes, but I have 2mm of space, is it really too much? otherwise I'm going to find the right tube, no lizard! my mower is a briggs & stratton 3.5 Hp.
I also wondered why the site http://kidlogis.com/pmc/forums was no longer accessible, please andré?
@ soon
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Jonule, there are some tips on econo too: https://www.econologie.com/introduction- ... -3008.html
This part is currently being written but at least the figures that I advance are realistic unlike onpeutlefaire ..in order to make people dream ... the anonymity of the net allows it (except for imbeciles like me who quote their real name!)
The answer is: http://www.kidlogis.fr/
it is often the problem with the free hosts ... damage all the data of the forum must have been lost
This part is currently being written but at least the figures that I advance are realistic unlike onpeutlefaire ..in order to make people dream ... the anonymity of the net allows it (except for imbeciles like me who quote their real name!)
jonule wrote:I also wondered why the site http://kidlogis.com/pmc/forums was no longer accessible, please andré?
The answer is: http://www.kidlogis.fr/
it is often the problem with the free hosts ... damage all the data of the forum must have been lost
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ps: following the message of Jonah I decided to work Pantone Tutorial this afternoon.
It starts: https://www.econologie.com/introduction- ... -3008.html
It starts: https://www.econologie.com/introduction- ... -3008.html
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jonule wrote:wah the balls, I imagine that you are also worships ...
Venere on what?
jonule wrote:you continue to make pantone friends? you use the toujorus naudin plan for achievements? with T 1 / 1 / 0.5 thumb?
We bury the T, as long as it's waterproof!
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So here I have finished the first pages of the "Pantone Tutorial", I took the opportunity to reorganize the "Pantone" part of the site a bit, namely:
1) Pantone engine = theoretical aspects
https://www.econologie.com/c-est-quoi-le ... -1313.html
2) Tutorial Panone = practical discovery for beginners
https://www.econologie.com/introduction- ... -3008.html
This part is to finish. I will take care of them as soon as possible. I included the 2 FAQ pages in this part: https://www.econologie.com/faq-partie-1- ... -2925.html
3) Pantone in Practice = Advanced System Mounts
https://www.econologie.com/moteur-panton ... -2120.html
1) Pantone engine = theoretical aspects
https://www.econologie.com/c-est-quoi-le ... -1313.html
2) Tutorial Panone = practical discovery for beginners
https://www.econologie.com/introduction- ... -3008.html
This part is to finish. I will take care of them as soon as possible. I included the 2 FAQ pages in this part: https://www.econologie.com/faq-partie-1- ... -2925.html
3) Pantone in Practice = Advanced System Mounts
https://www.econologie.com/moteur-panton ... -2120.html
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bob_isat wrote:class and clear, what better? ...
What better? Ben I still have to write the following pages (the most interesting in my opinion since they evoke the tests and improvements possible):
# Possible tests with this assembly
# The limits of this plan
# Possible evolutions
# Learn more
Any help is welcome!
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Hello to you all,
It's been a few months since I read your site Christophe and I'm learning a lot ;-)
In short: I am an industrial engineer 27 years, living in the "Belgian Ardennes", working in Luxembourg and having been a little tour at DELPHI automotive for those who know ...
Now I am in industrial automation. I worked three years in diesel engines, the "chips" as they say vulgarly. This is the anti-thesis of the depolution, of course, but it allowed me to approach very closely all the different injection systems, their controls and the electronics that drives all that.
Why post in this subject? Simply to encourage you to continue your work on "how to make a first Pantone engine". I got an old tiller motor ... it turns, I tested it, but I want to change it to Pantone and help the "community" to improve the system. So since you have to start with something, I'm going to "stupidly copy" and follow your instructions.
I could perhaps make a report "photo" of this first montage for the site, and note the steps, the difficulties that I met during all this editing. This will certainly serve the following ... what do you think? This will be a "guide" or "walkthrough" of a first Pantone.
In any case your opinions are welcome for the purchase of equipment, where to buy, and what budget to provide. If you had a detailed picture of each piece ... that would be ideal ;-) but I may be abusing it? Whatever ... if I ask myself the question, others have to ask it, right?
It's been a few months since I read your site Christophe and I'm learning a lot ;-)
In short: I am an industrial engineer 27 years, living in the "Belgian Ardennes", working in Luxembourg and having been a little tour at DELPHI automotive for those who know ...
Now I am in industrial automation. I worked three years in diesel engines, the "chips" as they say vulgarly. This is the anti-thesis of the depolution, of course, but it allowed me to approach very closely all the different injection systems, their controls and the electronics that drives all that.
Why post in this subject? Simply to encourage you to continue your work on "how to make a first Pantone engine". I got an old tiller motor ... it turns, I tested it, but I want to change it to Pantone and help the "community" to improve the system. So since you have to start with something, I'm going to "stupidly copy" and follow your instructions.
I could perhaps make a report "photo" of this first montage for the site, and note the steps, the difficulties that I met during all this editing. This will certainly serve the following ... what do you think? This will be a "guide" or "walkthrough" of a first Pantone.
In any case your opinions are welcome for the purchase of equipment, where to buy, and what budget to provide. If you had a detailed picture of each piece ... that would be ideal ;-) but I may be abusing it? Whatever ... if I ask myself the question, others have to ask it, right?
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