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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by Mandelo » 23/05/08, 17:45

The breather is used to maintain the air pressure in the sump


I saw cars that did not even have any more, is this dangerous for the engine ???
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by Flytox » 23/05/08, 19:05

Hello Mandelo

mandelo wrote:
The breather is used to maintain the air pressure in the sump


I saw cars that did not even have any more, is this dangerous for the engine ???


If your engine is at the end of the roller (completely rinsed) it spits a lot by this piping. If it does not recover anything in its settling part which returns to the crankcase, the consumption of oil can be relatively important and limit the autonomy between 2 oil levels. At the limit we can finish killing the engine like that for lack of oil.

Otherwise, it is not dangerous for an engine in good condition, but it is only the ignorant or the big bastards who put it directly to the air pollution question : Evil: : Evil: : Evil: : Mrgreen:
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by Other » 24/05/08, 06:26

Hello

most engines have a breather

On the move there is still a small part of the flue gas flowing through the segments. These ga zcontian the water vapor from the stubborn carburettor (especially when starting on gasoline and even more so on diesel direct injection (the guys who walk a 100% oil sometimes see their crankcase oil level increase)
Normally if the engine is in good condition, it is long enough to heat the engine oil to more than 100c

These contaminants, water and fuel that dilute the oil, evaporate and come out by the breather, the breather outlet for the engine is directly in the open air (on the aircraft if we return it by the carburetor there would have an additional risk of icing), most often it is to send behind the air filter, not to contaminate it and there is more depression behind the filter.
The breather must not be plugged, the pressure in the sump increases and forces the hot oil out through the seals and even break the seals of the vibrocamp, a slight depression in the sump removes many of the oil slides.

On many cars there is a PCV System (Positive Crankase Ventillation)

On the V6 or V8 engine There is an air intake caught in the back of the air filter that goes on the rocker cover of a row of cylinder and on the other rows of cylinder it goes into the intake manifold under the butterfly, with a small check valve (PCV valve), this way there is a forced ventilation of the housing ..

Andre

Some pose this accessory in place of the PCV valve which is a simple check valve
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by FPLM » 02/03/10, 10:40

Why is there no approved water doping system to pass the car safety check?
What does it take to get approval? (apart from greasing the paws of the competent authorities)
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by Capt_Maloche » 08/03/10, 22:40

Just show that the system reduces pollution and does not degrade the mechanics ...

For this we will develop with Econology association a water injection kit proportional to the quantity of fuel, connected to one of the injection actuators

We will take equipped vehicles to anti-pollution control before and after assembly.

We are in the process of answering with Christophe an interview of a car newspaper which should devote us 4 pages on water doping
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by FPLM » 09/03/10, 09:56

Cool. Thank you Capt_Maloche.
I look forward to the continuation.
Good continuation.
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