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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by alaniesse » 19/05/11, 00:45

Very good reminder christophe operation with water.

Just you say that the room temperature is higher than the temperature of the exhaust.

When brushed 90% water, 10% gasoline, the temperature of the exhaust is very important. if the temperature is too strong, the reaction is not maintained.

For the water becomes fuel, oxidizer, it is necessary that the molecule splits. It must be very hot exhaust, thermal protection around the exhaust, and super functional reactor which will cause the reaction.
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by Christophe » 19/05/11, 00:58

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a) ca concerns the water doping mainly on diesel

90 / 10% I do not know Why this is like mounting your part? : Shock:

b) about the cracking, I have noted
7) Thermolysis water
but in all cases, except c), T ° chamber is much higher (2500 ° C) than that of the exhaust (who will struggle to exceed 800 ° C)

c) after if there are other phenomena like cavitation, sonofusion or other, it is up to you to enlighten us ... on your "functional super reactor" ...

It is by sharing that advance!
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by Other » 19/05/11, 05:03

Hello

I'm testing the perforated rod, according to the explanations of Alaniesse.
Just try doing some walking and running a gasoline fuel oil with small petrol engine.
the holes are 1 / 8 be 3,2mm I have made following the spiral of the rod, the rod is 30cm (which is too long in my opinion) the beginning of the rod is 8cm rest on the shiny metal rod becomes blue black even after 20minutes walk, not tested with an alcohol water mixture to see the maximum% water that can support the engine.
Test small smooth steel rod of 20cm was more stable for walking on diesel (although this is preliminary tests, it must spend more time and differrent rich setting, measurement support ect .. long procedure ...

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by pb2488 » 19/05/11, 06:56

Christophe wrote:
pb2488 wrote:Yes. A negative effect ...


Ah ah ah, beautiful pirouette, it is no negative? Go go around this time ..
That goes without saying. If the goal is to have negative effects, I know a lot of famous inventor .....
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by alaniesse » 19/05/11, 08:00

Hello Andrew,

Yes, do not forget that a great reactor is designed to work primarily with water.
when I have a percentage of water, essence of 50 / 50, it does not have enough torque, it looks like a pantone :)
when I 75% water / 25% gasoline, it's a plane.
but it takes the heat.
requires that the exhaust is very hot for it to work.
and do not forget to water it takes a nebullisateur a depression with all or part of the vortex inside.
The bubbler is white, it looks like milk.

why, because it's one of the only ways to have a omogenisation water and gasoline.
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by alaniesse » 19/05/11, 09:19

fine rod, I guess is the side of the inlet.
the end of the other side is "square".

I know, it's a practice on "pantone".

super reactor in general, it must be aerodynamic.
slightly rounded egg head enough

this is one reason the recovery capacity and torque.
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by Cuicui » 19/05/11, 10:31

alaniesse wrote:when I 75% water / 25% gasoline, it's a plane. But it need heat. requires that the exhaust is very hot for it to work.

Hello Alaniesse
You mean the 75% water / 25% gasoline entirely through the reactor? So far I thought the bubbler simply extracted gasoline vapors (and a little water vapor).
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by Christophe » 19/05/11, 10:49

Not just but mostly: worse if it is not heated, it will not consume any fuel but only the most volatile part!

After as I have already said several times with Alaniesse: we do not know what he means when he speaks in%, evaporation bubbler, mixed steam generator injector?

So I wait visual confirmation of the figures by Alaniesse ...

For moment I remain skeptical!

AndreI copied / pasted your message here: https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203075.html#203075 on this topic https://www.econologie.com/forums/etude-de-t ... t4944.html

We continue over there about the breakthrough stem please! Thank you!
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by alaniesse » 19/05/11, 11:36

Yes, Christopher,
last post here, to embark on the new post created.

Everything goes through an evaporator nebulleur a total depression cold (without reheating by exhaust gas)

no injector (to my knowledge)

(Mixed generator, ionizer vibrator, can be used to froler the 100% water) in addition in parallel to the bubbler.

you're skeptical, I have no doubt.

today: Miraclean still appears as a scam in google searches.
This is a horror.
the group has always worked. John Francis understood the Pantone design defects.
he put 3 years to develop the system.


at the time, you were invited to demonstrations.
Nobody came.

I was working the jeans partner Francois.
I was one of three partners of the project.
I was the CEO of the company.

the engine has always worked.
it was 2009
today, there is what happens at this level?
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by Christophe » 19/05/11, 12:14

You make reference to this: https://www.econologie.com/forums/miraclean- ... t7712.html I suppose ? (Among others)

Admit that the communication at the time was disastrous, we could edit the title of this ... when I would have been convinced ... yet I remain skeptical!
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