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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by Christophe » 24/03/11, 11:46

If there are 2 pumps why not use an injector system?

Here we could really say X% of gasoline and (100-X)% of water consumed ... Running an engine on very volatile gasoline vapors is not a miracle ... year! It's just the ancestor of carburetors (wicks)!

If you want to take stock, what you need to do is measure what you have on entry and exit, precisely and during a defined period ... and not with the "ladle" (eyes, nose, smell. ..)

My god, I feel like I'm coming back in 2001-2002 ... : Shock: : Shock:
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by Christophe » 24/03/11, 12:06

I do not know why (if a little anyway) but this perforated rod reminds me of the Alberich technique of anti sonar detection of active uboot ...

http://www.uboataces.com/sonar-coating.shtml

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterseeboot_480

Also called Anechoic roof tile

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuile_an%C3%A9cho%C3%AFque
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by gegyx » 24/03/11, 14:17

Glad that research continues on this Pantome-plasma improvement, due to cavities in the reactor rod.

Andre talked about this magnetism and this hot spot, but it was an occasional operation. (Hello! Andre ?)

It must certainly be a plus, given the blued state of the stem, and the performance that announces Alaniesse.

The German technique relates more to shark skin.
Micro cavities to create local turbulence inhibiting external drag.
Ditto the resemblance to the scales of the shark skin, for the orientation of the furrows in the direction of advancement.

But there, in this experiment the goal is to make a real cavitation which heats up a little more.
Kind of like Grigg's pump.
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by manoria68 » 24/03/11, 20:14

according to the experiences that I had already made, it is unthinkable to make a bubbler in a car, even that with water, and even less water + gasoline. a bubbler is not precise enough
The best way to be very precise is to send the water to a boiler which instantly turns it into steam, then it goes to the reactor.
So, to send a small quantity of well qualified water, there are 2 solutions:
- use car injectors (in addition to the original system left in place) powered by a pump under 3bar and controlled by electronics (which I did successfully). these injectors would inject the water into the boiler, then it would go into the reactor
- use a miniature fuel pump (eg recovery pump) which will send a calibrated quantity of water per engine revolution in the boiler. It is a solution that I recommend to a friend who wants to mount a pantone on a generator.


What do you think ?
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by Christophe » 25/03/11, 11:08

manoria68 I think you're not on the right subject.
Here we are talking about the physical effect that there could be on the stem ...

I refer you here (among others) and to the search engine search.php :

injection water pantone engine / generator-to-steam-or-bubbler-t3451.html
injection water pantone engine / generator-to-vapor-Instant-t668.html
fixtures-injection water / Peugeot-205d with diesel-generator-to-vapor-t1610.html

gegyx wrote:The German technique relates more to shark skin.
Micro cavities to create local turbulence inhibiting external drag.
Ditto the resemblance to the scales of the shark skin, for the orientation of the furrows in the direction of advancement.


I see what you mean (reduction of the acoustic sound signature = passive) but the Aberich was indeed an "acoustic" technique which allowed certain ultrasound frequencies to be absorbed ACTIVELY and not passively.

There were different hole diameters.

Should try to find a close-up photo of the coating ...
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by Gaston » 25/03/11, 11:33

Christophe wrote:I see what you mean (reduction of the acoustic sound signature = passive) but the Aberich was indeed an "acoustic" technique which allowed certain ultrasound frequencies to be absorbed ACTIVELY and not passively.
Absorption by the Alberich coating is passive.
But it is good to protect against ASDIC, which use the principle of active sonar.
In addition, the frequency band absorbed by the coating is between 10 to 18 kHz, so not really ultrasound ...
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by Christophe » 25/03/11, 11:39

Roh the quibbler :) we play on words I think.

Few people hear beyond 8 kHz non audibility is not the criterion of ultrasound?

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by Gaston » 25/03/11, 11:46

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Christophe wrote:Roh the quibbler :) we play on words I think.
I like the precision : Cheesy:
Active noise reduction, it exists, but it's completely different ...
And sonar is a bit of my field ...


Christophe wrote:Few people hear beyond 8 kHz non audibility is not the criterion of ultrasound?
According Wikipedia, many people greatly exceed 8 kHz and some reach 25 kHz ...
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by Christophe » 25/03/11, 11:47

Ah if this is your field, I bow :)

Thank you for the link on the active reduction! Yes, the famous anti noise floor lamps we have been talking about for years ... but that I have never seen installed in real life ...
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by gegyx » 25/03/11, 11:49

What I was talking about about the cavities on the rod

http://www.quanthomme.info/qhsuite/2005News/griggs.htm
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