Pollution (in CO2) of the pantone engine

Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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Re: CO2 pollution from the pantone engine




by pedrodelavega » 31/01/20, 14:03

GuyGadebois wrote:neither did the aircraft engine manufacturers of World War II.

To limit engine overheating during heavy loads ...
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by Christophe » 31/01/20, 14:08

Not that ... thermolysis of water, at least partial, occurs during the combustion of an engine provided that one taps into it! (it starts at 800 ° C and is total at 2500 ° C ...): https://www.econologie.com/hypothese-thermolyse-eau/

We will not redo the debate on the interest of water injection, everything is there: https://www.econologie.com/synthese-the ... r-pantone/ (or almost and if you want to add comments)
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by Christophe » 31/01/20, 14:11

pedrodelavega wrote:If this technology worked, there is no reason why it should be ignored on purpose.


For a few hundred Euros, 20 years ago, I managed to get 000ppm HC... something no auto maker in 2020 is only able to get with their billions of R&D!

So you're right: economically it does not work!

The only scientifically valid counter attack is that this test at 000 ppm HC was carried out by running on gasoline VAPORS (therefore on the lightest compounds) ... but give me 1% of the R&D budget of a manufacturer and I would change the world ...
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by GuyGadebois » 31/01/20, 14:13

Christophe wrote:
pedrodelavega wrote:If this technology worked, there is no reason why it should be ignored on purpose.


For a few hundred Euros, 20 years ago, I managed to get 000ppm HC... something that no automaker in 2020 is able to achieve with their billions of R&D!

So you're right: economically it does not work!

Indeed, it is totally stunning. I had noticed without measuring it the same effect, the exhaust gases from my Dacia are almost odorless (not cold, of course) since I installed this system.
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by izentrop » 31/01/20, 14:14

I just discovered a study of the Quelfutur group made by engineers and which is more than anecdotal
Christophe must know : Wink:
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by Christophe » 31/01/20, 14:30

Not really I let go of the water injection for a while ...

Independent engineers? Ok I ask to see. Url? .pdf?

I can't wait to see their approach but if you talk about the link of this comment: https://www.econologie.com/montage-gill ... ue-presse/ that is to say http://quelfutur.org/archive/moteurpantone.html

It's a bit light, isn't it?

They have NOTHING DONE EXCEPT to analyze MY WORK (without ever contacting me elsewhere ... and that's a shame) ... but overall I quite agree with what they say .. .except that they are not based on any clean work ... A little too easy therefore the criticism!
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by GuyGadebois » 31/01/20, 14:31

Christophe wrote:Independent engineers? Ok I ask to see. Url? .pdf?

You will find nothing. Opacity is required.
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Re: CO2 pollution from the pantone engine




by Christophe » 31/01/20, 14:34

Also read the other comment from the same person posted a few days ago: https://www.econologie.com/industriels- ... r-pantone/
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by pedrodelavega » 31/01/20, 14:49

Christophe wrote:For a few hundred Euros, 20 years ago, I managed to get 000ppm HC... something no auto maker in 2020 is only able to get with their billions of R&D!

So you're right: economically it does not work!.
Billions in r & t are loads, not profits.
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Re: Pollution (in CO2) of the pantone engine




by Christophe » 31/01/20, 14:53

Billions from their commercial margins (or public subsidies: it's more common than you think) ...

And what do you mean there?
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