Homologation and speculation on water doping and pantone

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Homologation and speculation on water doping and pantone




by Christophe » 03/06/08, 16:51

Received by email about the fisherman's crisis.

Le Pantone system for internal combustion engine, also known under the name of "Pantone Reactor" allows, thanks to the addition of a specific system for each type of engine, on the one hand to reduce fuel consumption by 20 to 55%, of which the price is currently growing exponentially, which is causing some concern, is not it, and on the other hand considerably reducing the various levels of pollution in the exhaust gases, among other advantages ...

In 2005, several hundred French farmers have already
equipped their highly fuel-consuming agricultural machinery with such
device which does not present for only disadvantage, besides its price
installation, that its lack of approval by the services
competent, which poses a problem with insurance companies ...

(this should NOT be said but ARE, as this page proves: https://www.econologie.com/forums/100-photos ... t2588.html
et https://www.econologie.com/photo_pantone ... ne-eau.htm )

France will soon assume the presidency of the Union
European, imagine the impact that could have on those who speculate on oil prices the simple announcement that France and the adequate European structure are seriously considering taking the necessary steps to approve the Pantone system ...

Guaranteed success! I believe that our current demonstrators will then have a double reason for satisfaction, will they not?

In addition, such an approval recommendation is perfectly in line with the spirit of the "Grenelle de l'Environnement" and should logically appear in its conclusions and recommendations. For this reason and the numerous protests of the associative environment, including those of "The Alliance for the Planet", of which I belong as a self-taught geo-engineer

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The only possible objections to such approvals are, on the one hand, obvious security reasons, particularly in the absence of approval, but also, of course and above all, the possible impact that this could have on public finances, given the importance of the taxes levied on the sale of hydrocarbons (except for air transport,
in particular ...), thus generating substantial resources for our various European States.

If the approval of Pantone systems was likely to be harmful to the resources of the State, it could only be in a very gradual way, at least balanced by the importance of the growth in taxes generated by the foreseeable surge in prices petrol...

In addition, neither the fishermen, the farmers, nor the road hauliers pay as much tax as the motorists, cash cows of the State!

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by georges100 » 03/06/08, 18:01

the pantone system cannot be approved .... since there is no industrial production ...
and for me homologatioo does not mean absolute security : Cheesy:
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by Christophe » 03/06/08, 18:02

Well there are 2 - 3 small companies that have been selling kits for a while now ...
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by georges100 » 03/06/08, 18:10

the problem is "small businesses" ... do they have the means to pay for approval ????
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by Christophe » 03/06/08, 18:20

Yes and no (an approval is not so expensive but a guarantee conservation is something else).

That's why they make buyers sign a paper ... Not very good for the planet but it's the system that wants it ...
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by georges100 » 03/06/08, 18:26

not so expensive quickly said .....
if we impose a homologation by car with supply of the said car at your cost ....
now on which system of maturity influences the pantone ?????
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by Former Oceano » 03/06/08, 18:54

It also depends on the role we attribute to the Gillier-Pantone.
If we compare it to a pre-combustion treatment of fuel, we can say that we do not modify the engine but just that we retreat the fuel before it enters the cylinders. So no engine modification or fuel change because you always put gasoline or diesel in the tank, the water only participating in the pre-treatment of the fuel.
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by Other » 03/06/08, 19:19

Hello

Before talking about homologation, the system should be perfected, that it works continuously is effective. We are not talking about a sequential timer on the windscreen wipers.

Has the VIX system been approved?

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by Christophe » 03/06/08, 19:28

georges100 wrote:not so expensive quickly said .....


Any small accessory car parts maker can get their products approved ... The point is that it doesn't have to be so expensive. It is not the homologation that blocks ... but the political will to do it ...

André: industrialists who would like it could more easily master the system without difficulty .... or a variant ...
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by georges100 » 03/06/08, 19:38

but we agree christophe : Cheesy: approval is linked to political will : Cheesy:
when the politicians do not want something they will set such conditions that it will not be possible, and the simplest is that it is very expensive ....
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