Doping water Motor: thermodynamic

Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by Capt_Maloche » 09/04/08, 22:10

AH! you're back with your : Mrgreen:

well no, because the recycled gases cool everything, like an EGR valve

suffice to see that the steel tube is barely red, within about 600 ° C; it is because all the fuel oil is vaporized that the flame is blue

Otherwise, there are now on the market so-called "blue flame" oil burners whose commercial virtues are the almost total absence of CO and NOx.

I only applied it to my traditional burner and made public the simple and inexpensive method.

The next step is the additional injection of water to possibly improve the heat exchange in the home
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by jonule » 10/04/08, 10:10

wow so here I follow you 100%!

Imagine that I also make the oil ball burner and that there are many similarities!
especially thanks to your nozzle sizing formula! -)

I also believe that injecting water into this system is beneficial. consumption level, and especially pollution.
André also said that it worked very well water vapor instead of the compressor on the ball burner, so!

it is true that I complained about the smell generated by the boiler!
which remains a good system, with DHW ... and 30% recovery oil in the fuel! believe me it looks impeccable, without modification; you can test in a can first to check.
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by Capt_Maloche » 10/04/08, 10:50

yes, besides in view of the price of domestic fuel oil which now reaches 85 cents per liter, I am considering vegetable oil as an alternative

anyone know where and how to get it?
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by jonule » 10/04/08, 12:12

of course, especially since you are not subject to traffic and other rules ;-)
ditto generator what!

look on oliomobile, there is an "oliomap" with search for sellers etc ;-)

in fact you should know that a fuel burner turns well enough to run on oil right? -)
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by Capt_Maloche » 10/04/08, 12:39

Yes ! here http://www.oliomobile.org/french/

sorting for the Ile de France list: HERE

Yes, but...
Vegetable oil Available Quality Type Production Press brand Filter Filtration level Price Unit
yes New Rapeseed Standard Modern Mechanics Rumaucourt Plant <2 µm 0.75 EUR / liter


0.75 € per liter is only relevant for the GO road
Domestic fuel oil turns around 83 cents to the latest news and is down
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by Manix07 » 10/04/08, 23:10

Jonule wrote
Imagine that I also make the oil ball burner and that there are many similarities!
especially thanks to your nozzle sizing formula! -)


I do not know ((oil ball burner)) can someone inform me. Thank you
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by Christophe » 11/04/08, 08:32

It's a very interesting technical discussion but I think we deviated a lot from the initial subject ...

So Maloche, I suggest you create a new discussion thread to present your burner ...
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by Capt_Maloche » 11/04/08, 08:53

TSS TSS! certainly the subject is well worth a thread alone

but if I presented this manipulation, it is for the sole purpose of determining the action of the injection of water vapor into the heart of a flame, in the beginnings of the injection into an engine

Capt_Maloche wrote:workshops on this subject will be:

1 - tests on EGR valve on 1.5 DCI 2008 engine : Cheesy:
2 - then the injection of additional steam


since: Perfect combustion reaction of GO (nitrogen is not present)
C2H16 34 + = 49 2 O32 CO2 + 34 H2O

3 - Recirculation of gases in an oil burner and additional water injection as follows:
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4 - Demonstration of the impact of continuous and pulsed electric fields on water in liquid and vapor phase

5 - Demonstration of the impact of pulsed magnetic fields on water in liquid and vapor phase


A little help would not be refused :D
I have the 1.5 DCI engine : Cheesy:
I will recover an old oil burner in 15 days


Objective N ° 3 has been reached, next! :D

I will therefore create a new thread dedicated to the improvement of oil burners, so as not to load this one.
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by Christophe » 11/04/08, 09:13

I understood the very interesting mental process :)

But gradually we talked more about doping ... so:

For further discussion on the optimized oil burner it's here:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/ameliorati ... t5172.html
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by jonule » 11/04/08, 09:45

ok, points 4 and 5 should be very interesting too! -)
will there be Tesla on the menu? : Cheesy:
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