Electric toasters, the big comeback!

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Re: Toasters, the return!




by Christophe » 19/03/20, 12:20

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Ahmed wrote:This is just another way of saying the same thing ...


No, no, let's be serious! You wrote (without writing it) that the coefficient went from 2,58 to 1, while it would go (to my knowledge, the RT2020 is still just a project) from 2,58 to 2,3.


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What to choose therefore had to tangle brushes!

On the other hand, for CO2 actually the value of 79 g / kWh retained seems small ... and especially the huge difference ... reduction of more than 60% ...
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by Ahmed » 19/03/20, 12:34

It's not Que Choisir who got tangled up in the brushes, but I who put the two pieces together.
Sicetaissimple, you write:
On the contrary, I think that basing a regulation applicable to new construction from 2021 on the forecast elements which have just been decided under the PPE is at least showing a certain coherence. To choose!

All that matters, is why and how these forecast elements were taken into account and, already the fact that it is over 50 years : Shock: discredits the project ...

PS: I have the impression that you are very ticklish in terms of electricity, hyper-electrosensitivity :?:
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by sicetaitsimple » 19/03/20, 13:05

Christophe wrote:On the other hand, for CO2 actually the value of 79 g / kWh retained seems small ... and especially the huge difference ... reduction of more than 60% ...


On the exact value, we can admit that the experts know how to calculate it.
On the downside, around 2010 there were around 5000MW of coal power plants in France which emitted around 1000g / kWh.
There are only 3000MW today and in one to two years it will be 0MW, there will be more (in fossil) than combined gas cycles which emit between 350 and 400g / kWh (plus some gas cogeneration and advanced turbines).
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by Ahmed » 19/03/20, 13:16

... plus the Gardanne biomass power station, which emits more CO² than a coal-fired power station (while continuing to burn a little, it seems).
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by Christophe » 19/03/20, 13:17

So that's what I say: we are not YET 79 g! : Mrgreen:

Be careful there is the factor corona + economic crisis to come which will certainly change many things in terms of investments in the coming years ...
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by Ahmed » 19/03/20, 13:20

... that's why estimates at 50 years ... : Lol:
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by sicetaitsimple » 19/03/20, 13:21

Ahmed wrote:... plus the Gardanne biomass power station, which emits more CO² than a coal-fired power station (while continuing to burn a little, it seems).

There really you discover me! 150MW ....
It is certainly an aberration, this biomass power plant (I already said I think on this forum), but it does not matter, whether or not we count on a carbon neutrality of the wood biomass.
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by Christophe » 19/03/20, 13:21

In 50 years humanity may no longer exist ... suddenly ... problem solved!

Oops I go astray! : Lol:

ps: I refined the title
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by sicetaitsimple » 19/03/20, 13:23

Christophe wrote:So that's what I say: we are not YET 79 g! : Mrgreen:


Nor are we building homes in 2021 and the years that follow. : Lol:
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Re: Toasters, the return!




by Ahmed » 19/03/20, 13:23

I am perfectly aware of the anecdotal nature of this production (not of its harmful effects), but it is for the sake of precision ... I find you very careful, you have to relax 8) ...
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