Solar panels and renewable energies

[abdesep2]

Hello,
I'm starting work on my little house soon and I wanted to get relevant information on the energy savings possible with renewable energies. I am building a 310m2 house on a 525m2 plot in the countryside. I was told about solar panels, but I find it very expensive, are there other solutions? Thank you in advance for your answers.

[stipe]

Hello,

You should have relevant answers soon (like a Canadian well or other more efficient geothermal solutions, but I won't spoil the surprise either ), I just have a few questions:
Do you plan to do everything or do certain things by yourself (like the energy saving part)?
What region would it be (rather sunny or not)?
What do you call dear?
What return on investment do you expect (economic, ecological and philosophical)?
When you say solar panel do you mean PhotoVoltaic or Solar thermal?

Good luck !

[dedeleco]

310m2 of living space is not a small house !!
There is that:
http://www.dlsc.ca/DLSC_Brochure_f.pdf
http://www.dlsc.ca

real efficient Canadian well that stores solar thermal heat in summer in a Canadian well designed to heat in winter with this heat (52 pavilions heated by 15m2 of solar thermal in garages per pavilion).


25 holes in depth from 12 to 15m deep on 100m2 of garden 2m from each other are enough for a well insulated house with good solar design in winter too.
With 75 holes over 300m2, the insulation can be average without eliminating leaks from the BBC insulation !!
A soil study is necessary before, that is to say a few test holes.
If foundations are well designed, heat resistant, the storage holes can be under the foundations and even in the foundation piles if necessary !!
Only big problem, technique known only in canada !!!
Et in France systematically smothered by lobbies, nuclear and installers who after installations will lose all customers, because nothing to consume, neither electric, nor gas or oil, nor maintenance if well designed, no more boiler or heat pump to change every 10 years !!
Result total refusal by the pros in France, ignorance and bashing !!

There are plenty of other solutions to combine and choose well to avoid the mistakes that some pros often make by old habits.

See on econology and google in the whole world, Canada, Germany, Denmark, England, USA, (in English better than in France sometimes).
Be very scientifically critical because there are often errors and false vocabularies such as geothermal for heat pump, deceptive French marottte, for what is badly storing the average summer-winter solar heat spontaneously in earth (at the north pole or in Siberia this is impossible because not enough sun and frozen earth, which proves that this geothermal energy is the solar heat stored in the earth)! !!

It is better to have a real Canadian well without a heat pump (lifespan 10 years, I find that I have had my home 10 years ago, and I refuse to pay for a new heat pump), well heated by sensors solar thermal in summer for winter.
http://www.dlsc.ca/DLSC_Brochure_f.pdf
solution systematically forgotten in France to perpetuate nuclear power with heat pumps that are changed before even amortization of force like me !!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_thermal_store
nothing in French on wiki !!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post201413.html#201413
see the links but not all the solutions are perfect.
http://www.zeroenergydesign.com/Architecture.html
http://www.icax.co.uk/thermalbank.html
look at all the google links by removing heat pumps or heat pump:
http://www.google.fr/search?num=100&hl= ... =&aql=&oq=
http://earthshelters.com/

A deserving Englishman with a beautiful site, who did this, with a big basic error, costly, to run the heat pump with a beautiful surface of photovoltaics and accumulation underground from day to night.
He begins to realize this by reading his site.
Error because he did not understand the diffusion of the heat which in earth diffuses on approximately 30cm in one day and on 3m in 100 days of winter is 10 times further for 100 times more in time (as square root of time) , which makes this inexpensive thermal storage possible without a heat pump but solar thermal collectors instead of photovoltaics, with a good surface area in summer !!
http://chargingtheearth.blogspot.com/20 ... skill.html
Basic course to assimilate well to avoid errors by misunderstanding:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusivit%C3%A9_thermique
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduction_thermique
with basic values ​​for materials on:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperatur ... %A4higkeit
forgotten in French !!!

A solar site to read thoroughly because inexpensive and expensive solutions varied and aids, but nothing about the real Canadian well ignored in France:
http://www.apper-solaire.org/?Pratique

Finally basic advice, make a house with one or two fireplaces to heat with wood if more electricity after disaster in France, storm or nuclear Fukushima in France, because I see near my home two beautiful brand new houses without chimneys, an absurdity !!!
With a beautiful forest next to it full of free wood left to pick up !!

[valvin5]

Hello,

Deciding to choose renewable energies is necessarily a sacrifice. When you already have a home, changing everything costs a fortune + the new installation, while when you build it yourself, you don't necessarily have the budget (I've been there!). In fact, logically, the investments made at the start are reimbursed later (solar energy works very well) but you probably think (like me) that it is better to wait. In these cases, I advise you to turn to pros who will tell you what to do before installing solar panels in the medium term. Personally, I went to see solargie.com/nos-produits-services/ but there also soluseo-enr.fr/solution-electricite-photovoltaique.html or Poweo-service.com.

A+

[dedeleco]

The first link does not work.

These pros offer solutions that are fashionable, that bring them the most captive customers, that pay , not those of the future that already work, that they purposely ignore and that will make current lame solutions useless, identical to the professional advice of 15 to 30 years ago for electric heating or currently the heat pumps with breakdowns or at an exorbitant price of € 30000, as recently friends of my in-laws were tricked, by paying € 30000, for a PAC that worked for 3 days and a company that went bankrupt !!
And moreover, lacking in dynamics, they do nothing, believing that there is nothing to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
The weak or ignorant are ideal prey for some scam pros !!
And this without ever risking going to prison.
Much less dangerous than driving badly on the road.
There are too many scams visible if you do a scientific analysis without preconceived ideas, or if you got scammed !!

Good luck in these scams by paying dearly!