Recover calories on the pipe of a wood stove

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Recover calories on the pipe of a wood stove




by gpl » 30/04/07, 22:24

Hello,
I plan to buy a wood stove and recover the calories from the pipe to heat more distant rooms

1 / create a box isolate or I would enclose the pipe of the stove, and at the top of this box I would install a hot air distribution kit

http://www.westafrance.fr/habitat/distribution.htm
When do you think?
thank you for your advice and your help
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by Other » 01/05/07, 05:34

Hello

This is sold in the trade in Quebec he calls it a hot pulse
it has two models it is connected to the 8 duct 200mm at the exit of the stove the fummé passes in a serie of small tubes and a fan pulsates the air around the tubes ..
The more effective the fummée passes around the tubes and it is the pulsed air which passes in the tubes.
It has stainless steel models, it is simple to install, some have a thermostat when it is hot it starts, because it does not too cool the fummées in the output of the peole it is cold fireplace and creososte if you burn woods. .

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Re: recover calories stove pipe




by the middle » 01/05/07, 07:20

gpl wrote:Hello,
I plan to buy a wood stove and recover the calories from the pipe to heat more distant rooms

1 / create a box isolate or I would enclose the pipe of the stove, and at the top of this box I would install a hot air distribution kit

http://www.westafrance.fr/habitat/distribution.htm
When do you think?
thank you for your advice and your help

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Hello,
In France there is this system, but the top would be to add a regulation, as on the system proposed by André

It is well thought to recover calorie after the poel, because by experience I know that there are many losses in the chimney.
At home, there is a copper coil inside the chimney, which heats my sanitary water, but the tars come to stick on the coil, and I have to clean the coil every 3 months.
So, the best system is air / air, as you seek to do.
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by elephant » 02/05/07, 08:25

Anyway, nothing prevents you from doing like our grandmothers who left a kettle full on the stove! :D

One of my clients heats a 3 home parts top, 3 parts down with a cassette + hot air recovery by shutters and turbines

+ punctual electric booster to the bathroom.
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by Rabbit » 03/05/07, 00:35

After installing a stove wood / coal years 80.
I decided to replace my insert which truncated ds the living room by
a cook with a nice look. I bought a stove
1920 years. A real beauty. It is full of sight.
Only small problem, at the time the energy economy was
not a priority.So no join nor slow combustion.
It heats less well than the one of the 80 e years consumes
much more.

So I'm going to recover the calories that heat the
birds on the roof by a copper coil .This serpentine
will preheat sanitary water as well 2 pieces by l intermediere
radiators .The whole thermo syphon shoulder of a circulator
without anti return.It must be said that these 2 cookers are the
only heat sources of the house.

My only inquiries are that the fumes are too cold
and that the coil does not cover too much soot.
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by the middle » 03/05/07, 07:23

Rabbit wrote:After installing a stove wood / coal years 80.
I decided to replace my insert which truncated ds the living room by
a cook with a nice look. I bought a stove
1920 years. A real beauty. It is full of sight.
Only small problem, at the time the energy economy was
not a priority.So no join nor slow combustion.
It heats less well than the one of the 80 e years consumes
much more.

So I'm going to recover the calories that heat the
birds on the roof by a copper coil .This serpentine
will preheat sanitary water as well 2 pieces by l intermediere
radiators .The whole thermo syphon shoulder of a circulator
without anti return.It must be said that these 2 cookers are the
only heat sources of the house.

My only inquiries are that the fumes are too cold
and that the coil does not cover too much soot.

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Hello Rabbit,
Clearly, the coil inside the chimney is a soot trap.
So you need easy access to the chimney, to clean the coil
This system also causes some condensation ...
After 3 months of use, the yield decreases, and the draw too.
At home, I put 12 copper meters, diameter 12mm
There is a circulator that starts with a T ° probe glued to the coil.
The T ° sensor is sent to the T ° sensor of the solarium sensor, which is very convenient because the circulator speed is adapted to the T ° of the coil (in winter I do not use the solarium sensor)
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by sgallio » 12/07/07, 09:59

Hello,
If you want to recover heat, do not do it at the stovepipe, but at the stove itself.

In fact, the stove pipe must keep the heat as well as possible, in order to guarantee an efficient draft, and thus efficient and less polluting combustion.

Adding a coil inside the duct is a very bad idea. It is necessary to leave the duct as smooth as possible, without any obstacle. Inserting elements into the duct greatly increases the risk of fire (chimney fire) by the accumulation of soot, bistre; tar....

http://www.tuyaudepoele.com/
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by krashman » 12/07/07, 11:24

Another point to take into account, driving must be easily visitable, it is regulatory, I would seek even, it may be in the departmental health regulations.
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by the middle » 12/07/07, 11:39

sgallio wrote:Hello,
If you want to recover heat, do not do it at the stovepipe, but at the stove itself.

In fact, the stove pipe must keep the heat as well as possible, in order to guarantee an efficient draft, and thus efficient and less polluting combustion.

Adding a coil inside the duct is a very bad idea. It is necessary to leave the duct as smooth as possible, without any obstacle. Inserting elements into the duct greatly increases the risk of fire (chimney fire) by the accumulation of soot, bistre; tar....

http://www.tuyaudepoele.com/

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Very true, nothing to say
Except that .... My chimney is made of stainless steel
The draw is very good, and my coil reduces the duct T ° from 180 to 60 °
With 60 °, the print is ok
Soot tars, YES, that's right, but I specified that I do a cleaning twice a winter.
Access to the fireplace ... how was the photo taken by a manhole or hand.
Otherwise, it's true, a coil in the conduit, it's not the best, it's better to have a poel that eliminates the calories before leaving for the fireplace.
My poel releases too many calories, and I get them back. That's all. 8)
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Re: Pipe hoses




by the middle » 12/07/07, 11:53

sgallio wrote:Hello,
considerably the risk of fire (chimney fire) by the accumulation of soot, bistre; tar....

http://www.tuyaudepoele.com/

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Hihi, Sgallio,
Chimney fire, do you know how I decant my chimney?
I put newspaper in the conduit INOX ISOLATED, THICK, and I put fire ...... and sometimes I add a little oil, so that my fireplace burns even better ...
Of course it is not recommended for a brick fireplace.
Must know that I have Gallic origins, and also African.
It explains a lot of things 8)
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