Apartment heating

[armindo]

Hello everybody
First of all sorry if the answer to my question is already on the forum
but I'm not found.Volà I just moved into an apartment whose heating is convectors not at all profitable (1ers price) .For now I warm myself with my electronic stove auxiliary but I wish changed because of the real health risks (apart c forbidden for these reasons) in addition to moisture, pollution, cans, oil .... short change! I searched in vain for a comparison, in vain, solutions and I arrived on 2 choice:
-the ceramic electric auxiliary heater
-the additional heating oil bath
But I do not know what is the best solution compared to the purchase price and yield (I want to take advantage of off-peak hours EDF)
In any good specialists of the ecology that you advise me?
thank you all in advance I just discovered this site and I find it great!

[bpval]

Hi Armindo

I guess you're a tenant ???
And that isolation level is grated ???

The oil bath is good for off-peak hours but if the insulation is foul (???) it is unsuitable

The ceramics are hot on the go ... time to put the over-pull and snowboots and to put under the quilt

The golden rule
ISOLATE FIRST
HEAT THEN

But if the first two points mentioned at the beginning of the post prove to be true ...
Only stay the BIRSTUB (corner troquet) to get hot

Hello

[gegyx]

Hello
I hope you do not have a cold weather, and many chilly neighbors, against your house!


Resistance convectors must have a yield of 100%

So you heat what you consume.

Do you want to do rather in off-peak hours?

there was a post from an original handyman, who added heat recovery elements on his radiator, to extend the load, during h.pleins.
https://www.econologie.com/forums/ne-jetez-p ... t4730.html

If you stay a long time in your apartment, go see the third operator in France, who is currently advertising: Poweo
It offers the same tariff as EDF, or gas of France, except on the consumptions of electricity and gas or it makes a discount of 10%, until 2012 and after.
It is possible to go back (for less than 50 €?), But as in 2012, all rates will be free, all will explode, they say ..

For gas, at home it was already the case!

[Korben Dallas]

So you heat what you consume.

Except that the convectors generate a flow of air from bottom to top which generates a sensation of cold which incites to overheat.
Radiant electric heaters are more comfortable and can reduce a little consumption.

[LOGIC12]

hello: a radiator oil bath, it is rather for long-term heating, it is the same principle as radiators with heat transfer fluid.
It gives a fairly regular heat.

The radiator blowing ceramics, it is very fast and rather for short-term heating, for example during the shower, and it stops after, In addition the air mixing helps to sanitize to dry to reduce the condensation even if it does not not exempt from the VMC or extractor.

But both can be complementary to each other.

For example, we arrive in a cold room, we put the ceramic blower a quarter of an hour thermostat not more than half, it is strictly useless because it does not heat harder.

And at the same time, we put the oil bath on a single resistance (not to take too much power on the meter).

Be careful the radiator oil bath is interesting, but no miracle, it is better that it is well insulated, and it must be proportioned to the surface or the volume to be heated.

We usually take a 2 kw with two independent resistors of 1000 watts each, but if it does not heat up enough after a while, it's better to buy a second that we place the opposite of the piece by example a 1500 watts with two resistors of 650 and 850 watts. or another 2 kw if the room is very large.

Better is two oil bath radiators that operate on a single resistor, and between 1 / 3 and 1 / 2 only one thermostat that works with both resistors, the heat is better distributed. This is valid between 18 and 30 m2. for a piece of 9 to 14 m2 only one will suffice. Do not neglect the importance of curtains which is a barrier to cold especially if the windows are not at the top.

[oiseautempete]

Hello


Resistance convectors must have a yield of 100%

So you heat what you consume.

Typical response from a person who has never heated with electricity ...
The convectors is the worst because they heat your feet above your neighbor (assuming there is one) while you have frozen feet ...
The most effective is the radian panels: not too expensive, light, low differential t ° between floor and ceiling, feeling of heat fast (by radiation), there are on wheels, practical for a tenant ... home , I replaced the convectors after 2 years for radians (there is now 16ans) and level comfort and consumption, it is the day and the night ...
And the electric accumulators are hogwash: extremely heavy and expensive, impossible to make profitable, to forget ...
Oil baths to avoid, are the source of many fires ...
Tips for savings: avoid dropping the t ° at night or during temporary absences (not less than 15 ° c) otherwise it will eat to death to raise the t ° and the feeling of cold is persistent .. do not heat the rooms that are only used for sleeping, replace the heating with a good comforter comforter ... limit the t ° of presence to 20 ° C and replace the t-shirt by a pull, aeration: the ideal is the VMC (the recent housing are all provided) do not block the ventilation, otherwise air large by strokes 5 max minutes, 2x per day ...