Make gas by ultrasound?

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Make gas by ultrasound?




by the middle » 06/02/11, 08:45

Hello,
I did not understand everything, but I am perplexed.
I gave a link, but you should not watch the proposed video (babington burner), but the one on the right, called ultrason1
http://translate.google.be/translate?hl ... rmd%3Divns
How please :D
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by Flytox » 06/02/11, 09:49

Hello lejuste

AMHA works like this: the small transparent container containing diesel is stirred by a piezo. Ultrasound creates micro-droplets a few microns in diameter of diesel which are ejected on the surface (fog) which are entrained by the mini ventilo which pushes a little air.

The diesel / air mixture reaches the "nozzle" and is certainly too rich and therefore incombustible. Passing through the colander, it is stirred with the outside air (heavy turbulence) and therefore becomes combustible with the supply of oxygen from the air.

When the flame is very small, it approaches the colander and heats it, then we hear an acoustic resonance which certainly depends on the length of the pipe and the distance from the colander to the nozzle. There was a link these days, on chai plus what post, which spoke of combustion instabilities and an "approaching" assembly. (See the link on page 22)

https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... oSHFIx.pdf
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by the middle » 06/02/11, 10:06

Hi Fly,
So, I wonder if this system is not good for water, and for oil ...
Water for your engine, oil for my burner.
In short, gasify a liquid with a certain frequency.
It's known. : Cheesy:
Hmm, you have to find the right generator, and the right frequency ... depending on the liquid used ... :?
In the video, he was lucky?
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by Flytox » 06/02/11, 11:02

lejustemilieu wrote:Hi Fly,
So, I wonder if this system is not good for water, and for oil ...
Water for your engine, oil for my burner.
In short, gasify a liquid with a certain frequency.
It's known. : Cheesy:
Hmm, you have to find the right generator, and the right frequency ... depending on the liquid used ... :?
In the video, he was lucky?


To make a certain "steam" generator we have already done this with ultrasound. Not sure that this is a good solution, it would be necessary to put a whole bunch of them to have a sufficient flow ... yield ????

For oil should try, but I think there will also be this problem of insufficient flow. Another solution, keep the oil supply circuit normal but try to vibrate the ball to better fractionate the oil droplets .... (piezo do not like heat, with cooling there may be an idea).

We can also try to vibrate the column of air that goes into the ball, always to try to better split the oil droplets at the outlet by finding the resonance frequency of the piping.
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by Alain G » 06/02/11, 16:49

While surfing on youtube I came across this mower which works with diesel steam with a piezo humidifier element so it's possible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTAasls ... re=related

We can easily with a few piezo elements make an oil burner!

There is also an automobile that works on this principle:

http://www.fuelvaporcar.com/
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by dedeleco » 06/02/11, 20:39

I never started my mower with drills !!
To these amerlocs always not to exercise !!


Otherwise the ultrasonic vaporizer is selling for 50 $ !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWj-gcYPTg&NR=1
48KHz
So very easy to have fun !!!
read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebulizer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l15ZGSnf ... er&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oI-OPsQ ... playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzgqxEU0sVc&NR=1

and basic courses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKZMuNk ... re=related


A basic patent really not original but 3 5Mhz:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7129619.pdf


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebulizer
With this technology a mesh / membrane with 1000-7000 laser drilled holes vibrates at the top of the liquid reservoir, and this pressure is very low. This technology is more efficient
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by the middle » 07/02/11, 07:55

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by Alain G » 07/02/11, 13:43

Hello fair!

What is interesting with the mower is that it runs on diesel when it is intended for petrol!
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by dedeleco » 07/02/11, 13:58

Yes, but it remains on the work video so that it works well and correct combustion.
It is certain that by heating the diesel and the air admitted before with the exhaust and vaporizing it with ultrasound, it will work like petrol, a total certainty, since the difference between diesel and petrol is only the vaporization T, due to the molecular weight !!
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by Alain G » 07/02/11, 14:35

Hi Dede!

For it to work well there must be more mist, so 3 or 4 piezo module, it seems obvious that the one in place does not provide the need for the motor!
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