Comparative CO2 and energy: heat pump, gas and cpcu

[Christophe]

Maloche who starts electric heating? Do you also turn your jacket over? Like me with the PV?

My parents installed an identical model (I ignore the power but it looks like 2 drop of water to that of the image) at home but especially ... for the air conditioning in summer ...

Frankly, it would surprise me that you save the equivalent of 1000L of fuel oil with this ... (just 1 battery I mean). Pay attention to the length of the pipes too ...

[Capt_Maloche]

On heating thermodynamics, shade and you forget that i'm also a refrigeration specialist refrigerants, that knows me.

I'm not returning my jacket, but right now it's the best I can do for my wallet and CO2 side (if this is really an ecological criterion ...) I also reduce the balance a little

For the consumer, of course if, because mid-seasons represent about half of the energy bill in Île de France, but you have to have a central volume in the house,

this is my case, I have a large patio on which almost all the rooms, except the bathrooms, it is also in this patio that my wood insert provides its calories, and when I have an outbreak, I heats most of the barracks

So as soon as it is necessary to heat, I will let the oil boiler run for the DHW and the bathrooms


Well yes, I also prefer solar, but I am poorly exposed and we have constraints of heritage classification, I am surrounded by 3 classified castles and solar is subject to heavy negotiations ...

it will be for my bioclimatic project

[Christophe]

A) Ok well, that's fine! I grant you: are you going to have thermo heating ... er ... nuclear? hihihihi !!

I will not go further until you have some PV panels to power your heat pump

B) Regarding the off-season, unfortunately your boiler will still have to run (with a "poor" overall performance) to provide the DHW (same in summer) ... not glop. And solar should prevail at this level ...

Too bad you have too many opposites solar level ... because bricoman has some for 2000 € ... Chinese or Turkish vacuum tube ... to assemble yourself and it is even "subsidized" from what I have. saw ... (some brico now have assembly teams)

C) Don't forget to put your PM230 on your heat pump I can't wait to see the overall record in EP!

ps: ah I didn't know you had a wooden supplement! Good news!

[Capt_Maloche]

A) Ok well, that's fine! thermo ... uh ... nuclear heating? hihihihi !!

B) Regarding the off-season, unfortunately your boiler will still have to run (with a "poor" overall performance) to provide the DHW (same in summer) ... not glop. And solar should prevail at this level ...

this is VLai that! I'm coming, I'm coming

Because I consume outside heating period around 400L of fuel oil from May to September for DHW alone, the losses are around 40L per month anyway !! or an overall rotten summer yield of 50% I know...

Too bad you have too many opposites solar level ... because bricoman has to 2000 € ... Chinese or Turkish vacuum tube ... to assemble yourself and it is even "subsidized" from what I saw ... (some brico now have assembly teams)

In fact, I have to look closely at my orientation
the roof section that I plan to equip is oriented South West + 45 °, which makes me lose a good part of the sunshine in the afternoon, I have to run Simsol to see 2000 € did you say?

here is how i am oriented:

C) Don't forget to put your PM230 on your heat pump I can't wait to see the overall record in EP!

ps: ah I didn't know you had a wooden supplement! Good news!

I have some but i am going to check

I always had an insert, you have to be crazy not to have a backup system

[Christophe]

Ah yeah ... south-east orientation not top ...

I wonder if by putting vacuum tubes on your southwest gable you would not have a good return (sun from noon).

See a "hybrid" solution: 1 panel on the side and the other on the gable.

The best: shunt one of the panels according to the time of day (or with a second comparator).

Well we are far from Edf CO2 there ...

ps: excuse me Maloche but it's still a neighborhood establishment "to the con" ... What is the interest of the "circle"? Do less roads / housing I bet ... but with 0 bioclimatism for most people pfff ...

[Woodcutter]

[...] and CO2 side (if this is really an ecological criterion ...) [...]

You're not sure ?

[Woodcutter]

[...]
ps: excuse me Maloche but it's still a neighborhood establishment "to the con" ... What is the interest of the "circle"? Do less roads / housing I bet ... but with 0 bioclimatism for most people pfff ...

You should "fly over" the IdF a bit, you would see that this kind of stupid implantation is, unfortunately, very common ...

[Christophe]

You should "fly over" the IdF a bit, you would see that this kind of stupid implantation is, unfortunately, very common ...

Flying over Paris? He is crazy! Do not want to be lowered in flame by an excited soldier ...

Ah but I understand !! Maloche, you live in a crop circle !!! Not too bad a headache in the morning?

[Capt_Maloche]

ps: excuse me Maloche but it's still a neighborhood establishment "to the con" ... What is the interest of the "circle"? Do less roads / housing I bet ... but with 0 bioclimatism for most people pfff ...

The residence dates from the 70s, so the bioclimatic we did not even know that it could exist

Otherwise, it's pretty seen from the plane and on the ambiance side, it is very convenient for children, no traffic or only neighbors and they are not likely to get lost, in the center there is a space for the little ones, in the triangle of greenery on the left, tables concrete ping pong
top left, the park before the Chateau, one of three that prevents me from placing solar panels ...
On the right in white, the official bowling green of the town
The trees in the residence are around thirty years old, which provides a very pleasant volume of greenery and leads

other than that, given the fairly large grounds, they could very well have oriented the houses to the south, but it was not in the era of time

[...] and CO2 side (if this is really an ecological criterion ...) [...]

You're not sure ?

Frankly, I fear pollution of all kinds more than the level of CO2

Climatic cycles are part of the "daily life" of the planet, and we poor fools, we think that it would be normal for the stability that we have known for 200 years to be eternal ...

as a reminder, there are only 10 000 years, a little before the great Egyptian empire, nothing more, the average T ° of the planet was lower by ten degrees, and to realize what this means, you have to imagine the sea level that we know, 30m lower and land completely covered with ice, which can be cultivated.

it is true, that the warmer periods go back to a few million years, but it is little in relation to the age of the planet

So, yes, human activity may change the balance faster than expected, that's for sure, but we are nomads on this planet

Natural climatic variations during the life of the Earth

Let's start by putting things in context: the phenomenon of global warming currently observed is on a very short time scale if we consider the age of our planet which is around 4,5 billion years. Indeed, a century (100 years) represents 0,0000025% of the age of the Earth.
It is therefore very important to clearly distinguish the notions of "era" and "period" which define two very different time scales: a geological era is a very large time interval (several million years), which is itself - even divided into periods which are shorter time intervals (a few thousand years). Talking about the ice age is not the same as talking about the ice age.
Historically, the earth has known climatic variations which differ in their duration (from a few thousand years to several million) and in their amplitude (from less than 1 degree to 7 to 8 degrees). Obviously, the further you get from the present the less precise the measurements.
For example, studying the isotopic composition of oxygen in ice cores (up to 3500 m deep) makes it possible to reconstruct atmospheric temperatures up to 750 years before today.
These studies have shown that during the last 400 years, the earth has experienced four cycles of warming followed by cooling. Each cycle begins with a sudden warming followed by 000 to 10 years of warmer period which is called interglacial period. This is followed by a gradual cooling which leads to the installation of an ice age. The amplitude of these fluctuations is around 000 ° C.
Currently, we have been in an interglacial period for more than 10 years. During the fluctuations of the previous 000 years, the highest temperatures have never exceeded 400 degrees compared to the current average temperature. Logically, we should fall back into an ice age… ..in the next 000 years!
The four cycles of the past 400 years to the present are shown in the figure below.

source: https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... aU8kfd.doc

And if we look at the curve above, extrapolating on the basis of the last 400 years, well we should already be going back to the ice age,

it reminds me of the theory of a climatologist researcher who said that on the contrary it was necessary to reject a maximum of CO2 to avoid this relapse of T °

EH, that holds as much as the theory of warming, right?

[Christophe]

Uh Maloche you seriously worry me there !!

a) the thermonuclear heat pump
b) the pseudo denial of CO2 as GHG or at least its reduction

I dare not imagine the c)

Are you sure everything is fine in your life?

ps: surely a blow of ET