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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by izentrop » 08/10/19, 16:50

It seems to me that the trend is reversing ... The factual articles that make good sense emerge and unveil the agri-bashing that dominated the information until then.
https://poliethique.fr/sciences/doit-on ... lyphosate/
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There is also this video of a gardener who hopes for a future for his children, without shocking his audience too much:
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by Janic » 08/10/19, 18:07

https://poliethique.fr/sciences/doit-on ... lyphosate/
and presto, one more fun! : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
poliettoc, false science, fakenews and co / should we continue to support the jokers who defend the Rondup? : Evil:
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by GuyGadebois » 08/10/19, 19:45

Janic wrote:
https://poliethique.fr/sciences/doit-on ... lyphosate/
and presto, one more fun! : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
poliettoc, false science, fakenews and co / should we continue to support the jokers who defend the Rondup? : Evil:

Funny things that do not make you laugh ...
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by izentrop » 09/10/19, 12:00

Some comments
Member of CRIIGEN and author of a thesis carried out in the team of Prof. Séralini studying the effects of pesticides and GMOs on health, Robin Mesnage is now a toxicologist in the department of molecular and medical genetics at King's College London. He comes back exclusively for A&E on the case of glyphosate. The comments made by the author do not bind CRIIGEN. :

Glyphosate is essential for farms that practice soil conservation agriculture and the alternatives are often more expensive, less effective, and sometimes even more toxic to humans or the environment. It is clear, however, that these farms will have to learn to diversify their weeding practices. Dependence on a single pesticide can not be a sustainable strategy. However, the transition can not be done overnight.

It seems sensible to go towards an agriculture where prophylactic practices inspired by agroecology are integrated with chemical and mechanical weeding. I think it is legitimate to try to reduce exposures to toxic pesticides, but glyphosate is far from being at the top of the list.

However, do not go with prejudices about chemicals and give in to chemophobia. It is not because a chemical compound is toxic in plants that it will be toxic to humans. There are even some molecules that are used both as drugs and as pesticides. There are, of course, many chemical pollutants that are toxic and contribute to an outbreak of chronic disease, but there is a need for judgment.

The cleavages must now be overcome to ensure a sustainable diet. Plant biotechnology offers solutions that can be very effective. So-called "artisanal" seeds can coexist without problem with GMOs. All solutions are good to take to meet the challenge of climate and demography. Why not grow genetically modified plants using agro-ecological approaches?
https://www.agriculture-environnement.f ... imiophobie
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by GuyGadebois » 09/10/19, 12:40

izentrop wrote: There are, of course, many chemical pollutants that are toxic and contribute to an outbreak of chronic disease, but there is a need for judgment.
So-called "artisanal" seeds can coexist without problem with GMOs.

Ah, congratulations! A fantastic jacket flipping ...

Summary of Robin Mesnage's thesis (2013):

Glyphosate herbicides are the most widely used pesticides around the world, their use intensifying with GMO crops designed to tolerate them. The review of the scientific literature and tests carried out by the pesticide companies shows that the assessment of the health effects of Roundup and GMOs is insufficient. Their long-term effects had never been evaluated until we made our own experience. In this study, Roundup and GMO (NK603) increased the incidence of mammary tumors, and also affected the livers and kidneys of rats from low environmental doses. These effects can be explained by the neglect of hormonal and gender-specific effects, but also by the toxicity of adjuvants that are considered inert in pesticide formulations. The ethoxylated adjuvants, 10. 000 times more toxic than glyphosate on human cells, are good candidates to explain the toxic effects of Roundup. We have shown that the toxicity of adjuvants is generally neglected in the evaluation of the effects of pesticides. These deficiencies lead to an underestimation of the allowable daily intake of Roundup. Bt toxins, which are the second main type of GMO-related pesticides, are toxic to human cells, contrary to all preconceptions but applied to regulation without scientific evidence. All these studies gave rise to heated debates that revealed the way in which conflicts of interest in the evaluation of side effects can lead to health risks.
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Janic » 09/10/19, 12:53

well done! that is why we must avoid falling into the trap of talking only about glyphosate alone, but about the whole product + adjuvants exactly as for the vaccines of which they are the adjuvants which are the most dangerous.
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by izentrop » 09/10/19, 13:26

GuyGadebois wrote:izentrop wrote:
There are, of course, many chemical pollutants that are toxic and contribute to an outbreak of chronic disease, but there is a need for judgment.
So-called "artisanal" seeds can coexist without problem with GMOs.

Ah, congratulations! A fantastic jacket flipping ...
Summary of Robin Mesnage's thesis (2013): ...
Like what the worries of the time were unfounded and he did well to leave this nest of anti-science activists : Wink:
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by GuyGadebois » 09/10/19, 13:50

izentrop wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:izentrop wrote:
There are, of course, many chemical pollutants that are toxic and contribute to an outbreak of chronic disease, but there is a need for judgment.
So-called "artisanal" seeds can coexist without problem with GMOs.

Ah, congratulations! A fantastic jacket flipping ...
Summary of Robin Mesnage's thesis (2013): ...
Like what the worries of the time were unfounded and he did well to leave this nest of anti-science activists : Wink:

To join a university forming "elites" mainly sponsored by business law firms, but yes my good Izy ... is that it also likes the money, these people. We can not remain confined with researchers admittedly honest but shabby who earn piss!
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by Janic » 09/10/19, 14:49

leave this nest of anti-science activists
and it's an anti-science activist who says that! : Cheesy:
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Janic » 10/10/19, 10:38

Just a reminder
Health Concerns Results from animal experiments suggest that when consuming glyphosate, 15 at 30% is absorbed by the 2 body. It can then be found in the blood and tissues3, and it has been shown that it can also cross the placenta during pregnancy4. A small proportion can be degraded to aminomethylphosphonic acid (AMPA). Research shows that after a week, 1% of glyphosate remains in the 5 body, but since this product is widely used, the majority of people are exposed on a regular basis. Glyphosate herbicides have widely varying levels of toxicity, but can be fatal in humans6. They have been shown to be toxic on human cell cultures, particularly on placenta and 7 embryo cells. AMPA is even more toxic to humans than glyphosate8. 3 3 Glyphosate can disrupt the endocrine system, which can have irreversible consequences at certain stages of development, such as pregnancy. Studies in rats have shown that testosterone levels in male offspring are abnormal9, while cell culture studies have shown that glyphosate blocks receptors for male hormones10 and inhibits the production of estrogen11. If glyphosate disrupts the endocrine system, any exposure - whatever the dose - to this product is a potential threat to health. In areas of South America where soy is grown, the number of congenital malformations has increased. A study in Paraguay found that women living less than one kilometer away from glyphosate fields are more than twice as likely to have 12 malformed babies. Laboratory studies have shown malformations of frog and chick embryos when exposed to glyphosate13 herbicides. Glyphosate and AMPA are known to be "genotoxic" because they disrupt the ability of the cell to reproduce and copy DNA exactly, which can lead to genetic mutations, and increases the risk of cancer14. In Ecuador and Colombia, where glyphosate herbicides were used to control cocaine production, there was a higher rate of genetic alterations and miscarriages during the 15 16 application season. Chaco is a region of Argentina where soy is grown. The cancer rates have been multiplied by 4 during the last ten years
http://www.amisdelaterre.org/IMG/pdf/gl ... edia-2.pdf

https://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-servi ... 072616.php
http://www.alerte-medecins-pesticides.f ... taires.pdf
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