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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Moindreffor » 23/02/19, 18:07

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so like today, everyone wants to be the one who has had the head of the glyphosate, but in 20 years if the substitutes of this glyphosate do worse, will see them still strut, will they hold the same speeches
This is exactly the talk that "we" have with respect to vaccines, chemical medicines and phytosanitary chemicals, as many situations are alike, except that the vaccination scandal has lasted since Pasteur in France and despite its millions of Victims around the world, policymakers continue to strut too.
when you become an elected, we think we are invested with a supreme power and we must have an opinion on everything, even and especially if we do not have the knowledge
Re same thing! The current minister [*]who believes himself invested with a supreme power, imposed with its LREM 11 vaccines while the commission (almost which vaccinalists) opposed it. So what's the good of having established this one if it was to scorn his opinion?
science always scares the "ignorant", so they feel obligated to submit them
And here it was not ignorant but a nice skewer of PRO VACCINS toubibs opposed to an obligation (illegal), and have not been listened to by this politician, conflicts of interest with the industry of the drug. If you contest the political decisions, here is a beautiful one! : Cheesy:

[*] the previous did not know anything!

why put vaccines back on the table, here we are talking about glyphosate, if vaccines were a "real" scandal and their total ineffectiveness proved, that would be known, why do we currently claim that we could eradicate cancer from uterus if the vaccination of young girls was more systematic and this is not a French discourse
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by Janic » 23/02/19, 20:37

why put vaccines back on the carpet, here we talk about glyphosate,

It's not about than a parallel between two, or more, politico-financial situation hence my expression " it's the same thing as... "
if vaccines were a "real" scandal and their total ineffectiveness proved, that would be known,

It will be known! if I had to have won one euro each time it said, I would be almost rich.
Put the question first: who will say it? Not the vaccine producers! Not the medical profession, much of whose income depends on it! Not the universities that are sponsored by these labs and even less the medical journals that are only advertising-marketing. What is left then? Some honest doctors, with themselves, in front of their customers and who notice the relationships of causes and effects. But, except for the internet now, they were kept offline. So it did not know!
It is therefore to be very naive. Scientists of all levels and medical specialties demonstrate this in the official statistical figures of all countries of the same level of "modern" society.

why does it sayon currently thaton could eradicate uterine cancer si vaccination of young girls was more systematic and it is not a French speech
. It's the " on In question that asks question: Who says that this or that product (not especially the product vaccine) would allow such or such advancement in society that it is the simplest thread to cut the butter, until the most sophisticated rockets? Its maker only as a judge and party of his product.
So for cancer of the uterus consult the literature that appears on the subject or videos that take stock of it and that I already indicated. For example those of the surgeon oncologist and his wife oncologist in pediatrics Delépine, among other oncologists French.
No virus has ever produced cancer for more than half a century despite the billions invested in research. Find a single document official who PROVE THE CONTRARY! So there is confusion between the existence of the virus and the parallel development of cancer.
https://vaccination-info-service.fr/Les ... umains-HPV
Human papillomavirus (HPV) infections are very common and are transmitted during sexual contact. About 8 women on 10 are exposed to these viruses during their lifetime. In 60% of cases, infection occurs at the beginning of sex life.

HPV infections are most often without any symptoms. In most of the cases, the virus is eliminated naturally in one to two years and the infection has no effect on health. In some cases, condylomas (genital warts) may appear. Persistent HPV infection rarely (less than 10% of cases), but it can cause, in women, the formation of lesions in the cervix: it is called "precancerous" lesions. For some HPVs, called HPV at high risk, these lesions can evolve into cancer in ten to twenty years.

We have no recoil enough to say numbers like these (all explained by the oncologist cited) since the vaccine is on the market which since 2006. So it's just a guess.
So a small calculation: 10% of 60% this makes 6% of 100% of young girls having sex. On these 6% some CAN evolve, some how much? and not evolve into cancer but can only. Clearly vaccinate all of the girls and girls in the project also to avoid (5 / 10 / 20% 6% in question) is pure madness in addition to unconsciousness especially compared to girls who became sterile or in a wheelchair after a vaccine.
Japan, after these accidents and the little protection supposedly brought, has stopped its vaccination campaigns against HPV. You must learn more seriously;
Gardasil (Merck & Co., 2006) is a vaccine against human papillomavirus (HPV) genotypes 6, 11, 16 and 18.
Regarding the effects of HPV, the 16 and 18 variants can to be partly responsible for certain cancers of the cervix in women and genotypes 6 and 11 most often cause condylomas when they produce a pathology. The vaccination would prevent also some vulvovaginal cancers1 and anal margin.
So assumptions and suppositions!
Japan: Victims of HPV Vaccines Advocate for Victims
initiativecitoyenne.be /.../ japan-the-law-of-victims-of-hpv vaccine-ask-a ...
22 Sep. 2018 - Japanese Lawyers For Victims Of HPV Vaccines Call For Government Prohibition By Brian Shilhavy, Health Impact News ...
Japan: research links HPV vaccine to cancer
initiativecitoyenne.be /.../ japan-a-research-establishes-a-link-between-the-vaccine hpv-and it ...
22 Sep. 2017 - Research in Japan Links HPV Vaccine to Brain Damage Health Impact News Commentary Japan is ...
Japan: Ministry withdraws recommendation for vaccines ...
https://www.alterinfo.net/Japon-le-Mini ... eur-des-...
3 days ago - The Japanese Ministry of Health withdraws its recommendations in favor ... its recommendation in favor of the HPV Gardasil & Cervarix vaccines.
Last minute: Japan & the HPV vaccine - alter info
https://www.alterinfo.net/Derniere-minu ... 94140.html
4 days ago - SaneVax: Japanese citizens suffering from seizures, epilepsy, severe headaches, partial paralysis and many more ...
etc ...
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Moindreffor » 23/02/19, 21:15

Janic wrote:
why put vaccines back on the carpet, here we talk about glyphosate,

It's not about than a parallel between two, or more, politico-financial situation hence my expression " it's the same thing as... "
if vaccines were a "real" scandal and their total ineffectiveness proved, that would be known,

It will be known! if I had to have won one euro each time it said, I would be almost rich.
Put the question first: who will say it? Not the vaccine producers! Not the medical profession, much of whose income depends on it! Not the universities that are sponsored by these labs and even less the medical journals that are only advertising-marketing. What is left then? Some honest doctors, with themselves, in front of their customers and who notice the relationships of causes and effects. But, except for the internet now, they were kept offline. So it did not know!
It is therefore to be very naive. Scientists of all levels and medical specialties demonstrate this in the official statistical figures of all countries of the same level of "modern" society.

why does it sayon currently thaton could eradicate uterine cancer si vaccination of young girls was more systematic and it is not a French speech
. It's the " on In question that asks question: Who says that this or that product (not especially the product vaccine) would allow such or such advancement in society that it is the simplest thread to cut the butter, until the most sophisticated rockets? Its maker only as a judge and party of his product.
So for cancer of the uterus consult the literature that appears on the subject or videos that take stock of it and that I already indicated. For example those of the surgeon oncologist and his wife oncologist in pediatrics Delépine, among other oncologists French.
No virus has ever produced cancer for more than half a century despite the billions invested in research. Find a single document official who PROVE THE CONTRARY! So there is confusion between the existence of the virus and the parallel development of cancer.
https://vaccination-info-service.fr/Les ... umains-HPV
Human papillomavirus (HPV) infections are very common and are transmitted during sexual contact. About 8 women on 10 are exposed to these viruses during their lifetime. In 60% of cases, infection occurs at the beginning of sex life.

HPV infections are most often without any symptoms. In most of the cases, the virus is eliminated naturally in one to two years and the infection has no effect on health. In some cases, condylomas (genital warts) may appear. Persistent HPV infection rarely (less than 10% of cases), but it can cause, in women, the formation of lesions in the cervix: it is called "precancerous" lesions. For some HPVs, called HPV at high risk, these lesions can evolve into cancer in ten to twenty years.

We have no recoil enough to say numbers like these (all explained by the oncologist cited) since the vaccine is on the market which since 2006. So it's just a guess.
So a small calculation: 10% of 60% this makes 6% of 100% of young girls having sex. On these 6% some CAN evolve, some how much? and not evolve into cancer but can only. Clearly vaccinate all of the girls and girls in the project also to avoid (5 / 10 / 20% 6% in question) is pure madness in addition to unconsciousness especially compared to girls who became sterile or in a wheelchair after a vaccine.
Japan, after these accidents and the little protection supposedly brought, has stopped its vaccination campaigns against HPV. You must learn more seriously;
Gardasil (Merck & Co., 2006) is a vaccine against human papillomavirus (HPV) genotypes 6, 11, 16 and 18.
Regarding the effects of HPV, the 16 and 18 variants can to be partly responsible for certain cancers of the cervix in women and genotypes 6 and 11 most often cause condylomas when they produce a pathology. The vaccination would prevent also some vulvovaginal cancers1 and anal margin.
So assumptions and suppositions!
Japan: Victims of HPV Vaccines Advocate for Victims
initiativecitoyenne.be /.../ japan-the-law-of-victims-of-hpv vaccine-ask-a ...
22 Sep. 2018 - Japanese Lawyers For Victims Of HPV Vaccines Call For Government Prohibition By Brian Shilhavy, Health Impact News ...
Japan: research links HPV vaccine to cancer
initiativecitoyenne.be /.../ japan-a-research-establishes-a-link-between-the-vaccine hpv-and it ...
22 Sep. 2017 - Research in Japan Links HPV Vaccine to Brain Damage Health Impact News Commentary Japan is ...
Japan: Ministry withdraws recommendation for vaccines ...
https://www.alterinfo.net/Japon-le-Mini ... eur-des-...
3 days ago - The Japanese Ministry of Health withdraws its recommendations in favor ... its recommendation in favor of the HPV Gardasil & Cervarix vaccines.
Last minute: Japan & the HPV vaccine - alter info
https://www.alterinfo.net/Derniere-minu ... 94140.html
4 days ago - SaneVax: Japanese citizens suffering from seizures, epilepsy, severe headaches, partial paralysis and many more ...
etc ...

it is easy to speak in statistics, 2% or even 10 times less in stat is negligible, when you are concerned it is 100% and we are no longer in the stat, so say that in 98% of cases it's useless it's easy when you're part of 98%, for cons for 2% remaining is something else

the day you will be on the wrong side of the stat you may change your mind, there you speak without knowing, you can not really understand, you can just imagine
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Moindreffor » 23/02/19, 23:12

It has been five years since 2014 that no measles case had been detected in Costa Rica, a small country in Central America. But that was without counting on this couple of French tourists, traveling with their five-year-old child, who carried the viral infection, reports the daily La Nación.
As reported this Thursday by the Costa Rican Ministry of Health, all three have undergone a battery of tests that have formally confirmed the presence of the virus. In addition, it was added that the boy and his mother were not vaccinated against measles. The father, for his part, was not up to date in his reminders.
“In addition, according to a testimony from parents, several of the son's school friends had measles before his departure,” said the ministry. 
"Protect public health"
At present, the French family has been placed in solitary confinement at Monseñor Sanabria hospital in the city of Puntarenas. They are expected to stay there a further seven days in order to "protect public health."
At the same time, teams from the Ministry of Health have been dispatched to places the family has visited since their arrival. For example, in a hotel in Puntarenas, 26 staff members and visitors were vaccinated against the virus. 
This news is expected to accelerate the large measles immunization campaign implemented in Costa Rica for several months now. To date, 670.000 children aged fifteen months to ten years have been protected. 

ALSO ON MSN: Measles epidemic in Val Thorens: "The only preventive treatment is vaccination"
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by Janic » 24/02/19, 08:01

as we move further away from the subject, I postpone it and answer it on the vaccination subject.
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by izentrop » 28/02/19, 17:58

The masquerade continues ... : Wink:
This is a scene that has been seen in recent months in different parts of France: between 6 h and 8 am in the morning, clusters of people in underwear are waiting in line, waiting wisely for their turn to urinate under the control of bailiffs. These samples organized by the GMO Voluntary Reapers are sterilized before being sent to a laboratory to detect the presence of glyphosate. Unemployed as a result of the abandonment, in 2008, transgenic crops of plants in France, the Volunteer Reaper have thus turned into "Volunteers", with the key to a campaign against the glyphosate otherwise paying more in media terms than that laboriously launched against the "new GMOs". The campaign Glyphosate campaign, created for the occasion by the reapers commandos, explains that this campaign of urine samples will lead to a complaint: "Each person makes a complaint in his own name against the persons in charge of firms manufacturer [sic] ] glyphosate-based pesticides and those responsible for the organisms that contributed to their placing on the market during 3ème and 4ème quarters 2017 and 1er trimester 2018. It is individual, but carried collectively. And Glyphosate Campaign added on its site: "100% of the analyzes were positive, proof of the presence of pesticides in our organization."

"Many Americans have trouble understanding why Europeans are afraid to eat GM-fed chickens, just as many French people are stunned to learn that Americans do not want to eat raw milk cheese! Yet the truth is that today, raw milk cheese has killed more people than GMOs ... "An opinion shared by most of the scientific community. "In an article published a few years ago, we reviewed more than 50 publications on genomic and proteomic analyzes of GMOs to visualize the expression of all genes. As a result, the impact of transgenesis is insignificant, "notes Marcel Kuntz, research director at the CNRS. "There is no longer any scientific space to fear a health risk inherent to the" genetically modified "nature of varieties marketed after risk assessment as practiced," says the expert.

But that's not all. Because, although BioCheck has all the necessary accreditations to carry out its analyzes, some of its results have already been contested. This is the case of glyphosate found in 2015 in 16 breast milk samples. The German Federal Institute of Risk Assessment (BfR), which was seized immediately, "expressed scientific doubts about the reliability of the results and commissioned its own study to obtain understandable and reliable results".

The BfR has therefore commissioned renowned European research laboratories to develop two independent, high-sensitivity analytical methods for testing 114 breast milk samples. Both methods are based on mass spectrometry-coupled liquid chromatography (LC-MS / MS) or gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC-MS / MS). The German Institute specifies: "These methods of analysis are therefore more than 10 times more sensitive than those normally used for the analysis of pesticide residues in foodstuffs, and 75 times more sensitive than the ELISA method", which is used by BioCheck. However, the result obtained is conclusive: no glyphosate residue above the limit of detection was measured in the breast milk samples tested.

The BfR concluded that BioCheck's detection method was simply ... inadequate. "Glyphosate is not easy to detect. For aqueous solutions (eg drinking and underground water, urine), the ELISA test is used. In complex fluids such as breast milk, the test should not be used because many components of breast milk (lipids, proteins, vitamins, etc.) may interfere, [resulting in false positives], " the German science journalist Ludger Wess. https://www.agriculture-environnement.f ... s-analyses
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by Janic » 28/02/19, 18:34

and the pro-glyphosate masquerade (which is just the tree that hides the forest) that compares a weed killer to GMOs whose life-level implications are completely different.
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by izentrop » 28/02/19, 20:17

Glyphosate did not bother anyone before "roundup-ready" GMOs ... It was from there that the controversies of voluntary mower activists began.
Now they are recycling themselves into "voluntary pissers", but they are still the same fundamentalists.

Politically, they are allowed to do so because they are idiots that help maintain the existing industrial system, but in reality they undermine progress that would allow us to effectively fight global warming and not be fooled by the Yankee. Not to mention the loss of income from our agriculture that it generates.

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All health agencies say glyphosate is safe




by izentrop » 08/04/19, 00:25

There has been so much misinformation about it that it does not hurt to put a layer on it. : Mrgreen:

INTERVIEW. Editor-in-chief of "Science & pseudo-sciences", Jean-Paul Krivine regrets that scientific expertise is today devalued by emotion. https://www.lepoint.fr/societe/toutes-l ... 274_23.php
Promote science and rationality against charlatans. This is the mission of the French Association for Scientific Information (Afis), created in 1968 by Michel Rouzé. Between the anti-vaccine movement or alternative medicine, Afis volunteers today have no shortage of subjects. But the association is also venturing into more complex and controversial themes, such as GMOs and glyphosate, even if it means being criticized for taking positions, under the guise of rationalism, deemed anti-environmental. Jean-Paul Krivine is editor-in-chief of Science & pseudo-sciences, the journal of the French Association for Scientific Information. He regrets that scientific expertise is now disqualified by emotion, anxiety-provoking announcements and "innuendo journalism", like, according to him, the issue of Special Envoy of January 17 devoted to glyphosate. Interview.
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