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by Did67 » 25/06/15, 18:23

Leo Maximus wrote:Yes, what farmers call "liquid nitrogen" is nitrogen fertilizer (NH3) in liquid form at room temperature. : lol:.


Absolutely, it is ammonia NH3, anhydrous, which is liquefied.

It is injected into the soil, where it is transformed almost instantaneously into ammonium NH4 +, retained in the soil solution.

This ion will oxidize, under the action of microorganisms in the soil, in nitrate ion NO3-, which will be absorbed by the plants ... or leached in the water bodies.

So yes, the confusion does come from liquefied anhydrous ammonia, used as a fertilizer, and called, by a short cut, "liquid nitrogen" (the farmer puts in "nitrogen", or "potash", or "phosphorus", in common technical language, when chemically it is ammonium or nitrate, Potassium K + ion or phosphate ions ...)
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by Leo Maximus » 25/06/15, 18:56

On the other hand, cooking with liquid nitrogen is nitrogen ... : Cheesy:

This is not "agricultural liquid nitrogen"! : Lol:
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by chatelot16 » 25/06/15, 20:10

Well yes if you make the modern kitchen with ammonia (liquid nitrogen farmer) instead of real nitrogen it will smell bad ... the amoniac has a strong smell of m ....
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by Christophe » 04/03/16, 18:46

All the opposite in Belgium:

The Minister of Agriculture Willy Borsus indicates Friday that he supports the proposal to renew the approval of the glyphosate, present in particular in Roundup, on which must pronounce the European Commission the 7 and 8 next March.


http://www.levif.be/actualite/environne ... Econologie
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by Christophe » 21/06/16, 09:52

"ANSES is today withdrawing 132 authorizations for products combining the active substance glyphosate with the co-formulant POE-Tallowamine following the review of the marketing authorizations for these products", announced the security agency on June 20 health, environment and work.


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by izentrop » 21/06/16, 10:23

Hello,
For non subscribers to current environment:
the ANSES news https://www.anses.fr/fr/content/retrait ... ate-et-poe
This conclusion is similar to that provided by the toxicological evaluation of Efsa tallowamine POE (1), published November 12 2015, which stated that they were "clearly more toxic than glyphosate when tested in formulations based on glyphosate ".
The 132 products withdrawn from the market are all herbicides, under brands for professionals and home gardeners. "29 amateur products are concerned, some of them under the Roundup brand," says Elena Seite, ANESS press relations manager.
At the vote in the appeals committee scheduled this 24 June 2016, Brussels should propose to the Member States the same conditions as those announced before the vote of 6 June. These are an extension of 12 to 18 months of current glyphosate approval with recommendations for tallowamines as co-formulants, the use of glyphosate in public places, and the use of glyphosate in preharvest.

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by Christophe » 28/04/17, 14:57

Glyphosate will be (perhaps ...) banned in Belgium faster than in France: http://www.levif.be/actualite/belgique/ ... 53153.html
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by izentrop » 28/04/17, 22:46

This is an announcement of a minister who gives in to the public opinion and environmental NGOs by ignoring the opinion of scientists like our famous Ségolène.

Greenpeace goes a long way in misinformation http://www.bunkerd.fr/greenpeace-manipule/
No better for Future Generation http://www.bunkerd.fr/chiffres-rassuran ... s-futures/

Prohibit its use to individuals and green spaces, but not to farmers.

The herbicide has been proven for more than 30 years, is 90% less toxic than the old products used before its use.
There are very few chemical control alternatives to glyphosate, that is, phytosanitary products with such low-dose efficacy ??? on ??????????? a broad spectrum of weeds ?????????????????. This is the reason why farmers are hindering as much as four banters ...? Including farmers engaged in conservation agriculture approaches (TCS, no tillage, permanent soil cover, etc.)? Which are very dependent ????? phytosanitary products to the extent that they lose a leverage to fight against weeds and diseases (tillage) ??????. https://www.facebook.com/groups/zetetiq ... F0ZQ%3D%3D
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by Janic » 29/04/17, 09:11

Greenpeace goes a long way in misinformation http://www.bunkerd.fr/greenpeace-manipule/
No better for Future Generation http://www.bunkerd.fr/chiffres-rassuran ... s-futures /

Prohibit its use to individuals and green spaces, but not to farmers.

The herbicide has been proven for more than 30 years, is 90% less toxic than the old products used before its use.


These two articles are a mixture of truth and untruth, that is, they practice what they are challenging. Gaia is the only one really against arguing with accuracy. Indeed, glyphosate is not the worst of all products used in synthetic chemical agriculture and the temptation would be strong to replace a blind one by a blind man. But to say that it is a probable carcinogen, it is called a precautionary measure when it is known that, in the past, some products that were contested as carcinogens turned out to be a few years later.
For organic, the author is clearly against, which raises the question of quality vs performance and this is the only return he puts forward ... as usual. Moreover, when he questions the future generation and others about their anti-capitalist position, it is to engage in what he challenges elsewhere, namely to distort a certain reality of the words used. GF is not anti-capitalism but anti-money AS THE ONLY PRIORITY ASPECT ON THE REST and whose history, even recent, shows us where this leads and denounces the ecologist movements.

Finally the relative toxicity measured on criteria imposed as ADI is completely absurd but logical in a system that is a vision of a chemist, not a biologist, and an abstract dose (estimated on caged guinea pigs that have nothing human ... precisely) does not indicate anything about the direct and indirect effects on humans in a totally different environment than a caged mouse. This is what is produced for DDT, widely used and found in Arctic regions in high doses among Eskimos with biological problems in children, etc ... or even vioxx, and the rest. This is the whole problem of medium and long-term effects, which are often only discovered in later generations.
However, to return to the image used, it is indeed part of the very suggestive and subjective elements. Thus we can present a child that we will vaccinate, which will differ is the comment on one side claiming its protection or on the other pretends to its intoxication with each time contradictory arguments. It is thus of the order of the affective when the final choice will be made, that is to say to be afraid or to be reassured: the carrot or the stick!
Prohibit its use to individuals and green spaces, but not to farmers.

Why ? If it is toxic here: what would justify it not being elsewhere? Because the individual can also reason like farmers: if they have the right to use it why not us? and we will continue to poison the earth and future generations! : Evil:

[*] manufacturers, whoever they are, are not left to use suggestive images to use their products, so it is the trial of a blind one by a blind man.
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