Repair leaking PVC inflatable mattress (shit in China)

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by Christophe » 09/03/11, 12:13

Well we buy Chinese (or other distant country) because very often there is no longer a choice ...

For shoes, € 600 is clearly (the beginning) of luxury, so there is a part of the price which is no longer proportional to the quality. But if they last 30 years, well no it's not theft! It's cheaper than a pair at 25 € that lasts 1 year : Cheesy:

I do not know any luxury inflatable mattress ... The most expensive model that I have one with a pump integrated at 60 € ... it did not last better than the others ...

I am rather looking at the quality of my purchases yet you have to have a choice ...

ps: for the thread, you have the honor :)
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by Leo Maximus » 09/03/11, 14:07

Christophe wrote:Well we buy Chinese (or other distant country) because very often there is no longer a choice ...

We have no choice, not quite yet. We should make the effort to buy quality products and also agree to pay more.

Christophe wrote:For shoes, € 600 is clearly (the beginning) of luxury, so there is a part of the price which is no longer proportional to the quality. But if they last 30 years, well no it's not theft! It's cheaper than a pair at 25 € that lasts 1 year : Cheesy:

We agree on that. A pair of Grafton at 450 € is still in very very good condition after 15 years.

Christophe wrote:I do not know any luxury inflatable mattress ... The most expensive model that I have one with a pump integrated at 60 € ... it did not last better than the others ...

It is not the Chinese who invented the punctures of mattresses, in any case it is a fragile thing.

The solution would be to buy a folding bed, there are still some "Made in France", often archaic, heavy, badly done or even dangerous, that's why the Chinese will soon offer them to us. : Shock: The HS inflatable mattress can experience a new and long life as a protective cover during indoor work. : Lol:

Christophe wrote:... for the thread, you have the honor :)

For the thread, it is missed in advance because I know (a little) Asia to have gone there several times, and I am absolutely not anti-Chinese, nor anti-Japanese, nor anti-Korean, neither anti-asian. Suddenly, I will come into conflict with others, as usual. Asians love luxury goods, sustainable products. When they supply us with shit it's because our manufacturers demand it so that the public can buy cheaper.

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by Christophe » 09/03/11, 14:21

Leo Maximus wrote:When they supply us with shit it's because our manufacturers demand it so that the public can buy cheaper.


Uh no, if the traders and industrialists (not all) provide shit it is so that they make more money on 2 levels:
a) lower cost price
b) renewal (we join the debate on planned obsolescence)

The State is also a winner via these practices since VAT is only a tax on commercial margins! The more margin, the more VAT, and this for the same final price to the customer! Obviously corporate taxes are also impacted (more profit before taxes = more tax)

So the purchasing power of the public is knocked ... provided that THEIR product is purchased!

This has nothing to do with anti asia, moreover a lot of products are designed and designed "here"! To stay within the theme, just take the example of decathlon, well relocated to the production level (although their quality improves every year!) ...

Some SMEs are starting to relocate to France after 10-15 years of Asian production ...

ps: for the effort, I don't mind, where do you find quality inflatable mattresses and at what price?
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by Macro » 09/03/11, 14:40

Christophe wrote:! To stay in the theme, just take the example of decathlon, well outsourced at the production level (although their quality improves every year!) ...



ps: for the effort, I don't mind, where do you find quality inflatable mattresses and at what price?


In terms of decathlon .... I have the sad example of 2 identical BMX bought 3 years apart for the two minimacrocrados .... This one ...
http://www.decathlon.fr/bmx-bmx-bmx-wip ... cre-detail
The first was Made in EU, the second, comes from the east ... I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE TWO BIKES ARE DIFFERENT ... AND THAT THE CHOICE IS A TRUE SHIT IN RELATION TO THE OLD.
The crankset took some play in a few months, the stainless steel brake cables seized the brake pads we melted the tires burst for nothing and the air chambers are not repairable (it's rubber). the most recent is that of the youngest ... The largest is much more experienced in all types of acrobatics ...

I bought the same product two years apart

http://www.decathlon.fr/chaussures-mont ... 53250.html

The quality has dropped .. The so-called vibram of the soles has become dangerously slippery when we go from wet to dry tiling (Z'lez tell me we take our shoes off ... Well not in Auchan ... Good in Auchan we don't I'm not going in crocnauds for hikes ... Well, I take the old ones, they didn't slip) ...

For your Christophe mattresses ... In general these people sell good products. Often not more expensive than deca
http://www.auvieuxcampeur.fr/nos-produi ... ogonflants
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by dedeleco » 09/03/11, 14:53

I would tend to go to hiking and climbing specialists like at the Vieux Campeur in Paris!
http://www.auvieuxcampeur.fr/nos-produi ... rt-camping
http://www.auvieuxcampeur.fr/nos-produi ... ogonflants
Mountaineers do not like to be stuck in the middle of a rock wall in full climbing in extreme cold and therefore the quality is at the rendezvous at the Vieux Campeur, where I bought skis, clothes, etc., over 50 years, ropes and climbing equipment without seeing the equipment drop at the top of a tree and end up in the hospital !!
By phoning them you can get information on the quality depending on the price.
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by Macro » 09/03/11, 14:56

Dede also knows the old camper ... : Cheesy:
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by Christophe » 09/03/11, 15:26

Well, I wouldn't disappoint you, but I think it's no better than elsewhere: http://www.auvieuxcampeur.fr/review/pro ... gory/3774/

Their AirBed air mattresses (it's called and that's what this kind of mattress we are talking about, not self-inflating) seem as weak as elsewhere ...

De la M ..... E Comment by francky
Price
Quality
We used it only once last winter. Yesterday I take it out of the box, I inflate it at the pump and a hole, I put a patch I reinflate it and paf another hole but there irreparable !!! only happiness. I would like to know the address of the TIPI brand indeed to complain ...
thank you in advance
(Posted on 23/12/10)

Not very resistant ... Comment by JC
Price
Quality
A bit like the others, barely half a dozen of use and already 3 patches on it.
And now it's loose when welding the cells ...
(Posted on 23/08/10)

unreliable mattress Comment by wheel-creve
Price
Quality
I'm not sure if I was unlucky, but this mattress seems to have structural weakness. It is constantly pierced at the limit of cell design.

As soon as I place a patch, it is another cell that pierces. Raging! (Posted on 09/08/10)

Shit! Comment by Valou
Quality
Price
Far too fragile, burst daily! *
NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR: if the case really arises, the TIPI brand can exchange the product. (Posted on 16/07/10)


And for their "top of the range": http://www.auvieuxcampeur.fr/review/pro ... gory/3774/

Coleman double with velvet

Mattress too fragile over time Comment by Pilatus
Price
Quality
Product that does not hold the distance, beyond two to three years, the partitions break and it swells, or it pierces. (Posted on 12/08/10)


On the other hand, it reassures me a little: it's not me who's bad luck ... : Cheesy: and there I wonder if it is worth it to launch a repair on mine, if it is so that it holds 1 more use?

We will now know: an inflatable mattress is now for single use ...

ps: ok for Decathlon BMX, when I said improvement I was aiming for shoes and clothes ... because a few years ago their made in "asia" first price was really really shitty ... (yes I mistaken once!)
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by dedeleco » 09/03/11, 15:36

Macro has a tooth against the old camper as against Décathlon ???????

but at least there are user reviews that inform you about the low end !!

I think there are good different more expensive mattresses that last more than 2 or 3 nights !!

The ropes they hold on top of the 25m trees !!
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by Christophe » 09/03/11, 15:42

dede you read the answers of others or you invent ??????

Can you tell us what Macro said against the old camper?

dedeleco wrote:I think there are good different more expensive mattresses that last more than 2 or 3 nights !!


Well I looked at all their models and a priori even those at 118 € / 1 place have reliability problem (good ok outside on rock garden it's not the same ...) but good ...
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by Macro » 09/03/11, 15:42

No no not at all. The products that I bought there from the old camper are of quality (climbing shoes and some warm and light technical clothing and a self-inflating matela) that said, these are not products that I use every day. .

For Déca .... : Evil: : Evil: : Evil: They have (in my opinion) very good consumer fish for 10 years with certain quality products ... Then a faith the customer at the end of the line ... We transform the bait into chinoiserie ...

If you are a seriously ill you have an inflatable mattress Christophe..Deca has a model guaranteed for life ...
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