Zero Emissions?

[Woodcutter]

[...] balance 1200 € ecological balance much better than the prius
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And a realistic solution for one in 100 people ...

To come back to the subject, even if the term "Zero emission" seems to me particularly badly chosen, I think that it is normal and desirable that the manufacturers involve themselves greatly in the "deconstruction" of their products.

The French version of the concept is visible here.

Regarding the Prius, we must not forget that it has first a global vocation more than European, and that there is only in Europe, (and again, France, Germany and who else? ) where diesel takes so much market share. So you should not compare your CO2 emissions compared to a diesel.

[Former Oceano]

(I make a quick appearance)

Personally, I took the side of the bike. 21,5 km per day, 3,3 kg of fossil CO2 not released ... And a journey time comparable (given the traffic jams) to that put in the car. Tonight, I spent a Hummer on the old port and it did not pass me back until after Euromed, almost at the Boulevard de Paris 2 km away ... And yet I did 300m in scooter mode on a sidewalk due to the works of the tram.

[freddau]

I do not find it very happy in fact.

It really gives hope that in some time the C02 problem will be solved with the help of a technological gadget.

And the risk is that the uninitiated people, they are numerous, believe in it and do without any effort ... by putting them off until the next day.

[gas and heat]

It is certain that the zero emission goal is marketing and utopian the real zero emission is cycling or walking.

Hello Mr Nono
You say "zero emissions" is a utopian goal, that's not my opinion, "zero emissions" vehicles are perfectly feasible.
It is about the operation and not the recycling of these types of cars.

Best regards Gas and heat

[nonoLeRobot]

What do you mean Gas and heat?

The operation always emits something (the solar car is not for tomorrow).

And even a 100% recycling will require energy, moreover 100% that does not exist either ...

Or was it an ironic joke?

[Christophe]

Yeah Nono is right ... I don't understand anything either

[vttdechaine]

It is certain that the zero emission goal is marketing and utopian the real zero emission is cycling or walking.

Surely not ! Cycling and walking are not zero emission (walking is very close to 0 I think anyway).
By bike, I try to make my parts last as long as possible with recovery (parts at the end of their life never stop dying ).
Construction of the bicycle, extraction of raw materials, construction of parts, transport of parts, recycling ... All this makes the bicycle incredibly less polluting than a car, but it pollutes all the same. The rubber (where there is not only latex) that we leave on the road (50 g for 3000 kms approximately for a tire of 700 x 23) will end up anyway in the rainwater network with the rains.
All this to say that the bicycle is better in town than the automobile but its impact remains real and it is still possible to improve.

[Woodcutter]

[..] the solar car is not for tomorrow [...]

Sisi, for tomorrow (2007) if you have a little cash, with the Venturi ... (24 and 000 €)

[vttdechaine]

[..] the solar car is not for tomorrow [...]

Sisi, for tomorrow (2007) if you have a little cash, with the Venturi ... (24 and 000 €)

Yep ... although it is not 100% autonomous yet ...

[Woodcutter]

?? Comprenpô ...

These are solar cars that will be available tomorrow (to respond to Nono).