Wind power: for or against the wind?

[moinsdewatt]

DENMARK: WIND POWER PROVIDED 47% OF ELECTRICITY CONSUMED IN 2019

Fri 3 Jan 2020

After a slight decline in 2018, wind power continued to grow in Denmark, breaking a new record: in 2019, 47% of the electricity consumed in the country was produced by a wind turbine, according to figures in the annual report of Energinet , the national energy transport network, published this Thursday, January 2, 2020.

It has become a real meeting. Every year, at the start of the year, Energinet, the energy transmission network in Denmark, details the electricity mix for the past year. The wind turbine figures are carefully scrutinized. So far 2017, with 43% wind power in national electricity consumption, held the record. 2018 had seen a decline (41%), due to special atmospheric conditions (historically low winds).

But 2019 marks the return of the march forward. This Thursday, January 2, 2020, Energinet revealed that wind power had covered 47% of Denmark's electricity needs in 2019. This increase is notably due to the opening, in summer 2019, of a new wind farm in large sea, by the Swedish energy company Vattenfall, in the North Sea.

Denmark thus takes full advantage of its geographical location conducive to wind power, particularly at sea, and of a strong and old political will: the first Danish wind turbines date from the 1970s, the country was the first to commission a wind farm offshore, in Vindeby, from 1991.

This 47% is a world record: the European average is 14% of wind power in the electric mix; the second step of the European podium is occupied by Ireland, with 28%, or almost half less. Adding solar production, renewables covered half of the country's electricity consumption, compared to less than 20% in 2009.

Towards 100% renewable electricity from 2030?
The country also aims to produce all of its electricity from renewable sources by 2030, with a 70% reduction in its greenhouse gas emissions.

Occasionally, the country has already achieved this feat. Christmas Eve also seems conducive to these records. In 2016, on the night of December 23-24, the country had already produced more than 100% of its electricity consumption from wind power. In 2019, the feat was repeated: during the same night, 111% of consumption was covered by wind generation.

https://lenergeek.com/2020/01/03/danema ... bles-2019/

[Exnihiloest]

In the UK energy consumers have been charged £ 173 million to prevent wind farms from supplying too much electricity during the 12 month period ending in April and this figure could grow exponentially.

Known as 'duress payments', these charges currently add around £ 6 to the bill for every household in Britain.

During periods of strong wind, production in Great Britain would be too high. So wind farms are paid to stop production. Last year, these grants reached £ 136 million.

Half of the payment is paid by the electricity producer, the other half by energy suppliers and finally households.

Amazing!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/bills-and-u ... -turbines/

[GuyGadebois]

In the UK energy consumers have been charged £ 173 million to prevent wind farms from supplying too much electricity during the 12 month period ending in April and this figure could grow exponentially.

Blah. Nothing to do with wind but with management.

[sicetaitsimple]

Amazing!

No. In a market where the product must be supplied every second according to demand, it is "normal", or at least not abnormal, to pay producers downwards or upwards,
You confuse I think with a monopolistic system (EDF or another elsewhere) of the years 70/80 (certainly wind did not exist or very little) where this type of cost existed but was just included in a regulated tariff applied to the all consumers without further details.

PS: that said in the UK as in Germany in particular there are problems of network extension which are not in phase with the extension of renewable production, that raises the note .... But it is more a planning problem than a problem of "principle".

[moinsdewatt]

A big project:

532,5 million euros invested in the Mont des Quatre-Faux wind farm

PASCAL REMY PUBLISHED ON 24/01/2020

The administrative court of Châlons-en-Champagne approved on January 23, 2020 the Mont des Quatre-Faux wind project which will be implemented in the south of the Ardennes. The investment is estimated at 532,5 million euros and will include 63 wind turbines.

Supported by WindVision and EDF Energies Nouvelles, the Mont des Quatre-Faux wind farm will require an investment of 532,5 million euros.

The project was approved by the court of Châlons-en-Champagne on January 23, 2020. Based in the south of the Ardennes, the park will include 63 wind turbines with a height of 200 meters and a power of 3 to 6 megawatts, which will produce the electricity consumption of 249 inhabitants (000 MW).

The project will generate dozens of jobs on site, will require the creation of a maintenance unit in Rethel (Ardennes) and the presence of 200 employees during the execution of the works planned over two years.

This titanic construction site of 63 wind turbines will be deployed over an area of ​​5 hectares spread over seven municipalities located in the districts of Rethel and Vouziers. Namely: Juniville (000 machines), Bignicourt (8), Mont-Saint-Remy (6), Ville-sur-Retourne (4), La Neuville-en-Tourne-à-Fuy (4), Cauroy (23) and Hauviné (9).

The 315 megawatt wind farm will therefore become a reality in the field after having been in the works since 2005 and having required fourteen years of study and consultation work. Submitted on December 21, 2015, this project validated by the Ardennes prefecture on June 25, 2018 had been blocked for a long time. Either for procedural reasons, or because of an appeal filed on October 30, 2017 by a defense group denouncing the "excess" of the project, or for technical criteria such as the presence of radars from the Ministry of Defense in the area cover of one of the largest wind farms in France.

Ultimately, the initial program which provided for 71 masts was reduced to 63, which remains a very large-scale project. The town of Machault having disappeared from this park because of its listed church.

The economic and financial repercussions will be far from negligible for the owners and operators having sold their land but also for the municipalities, the intermunicipal associations of the Pays Rethélois and Argonne Ardennaise but also for the department and the Grand Est region.

https://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/5 ... ux.N922834

[izentrop]

An economist who speaks the truth:

[sicetaitsimple]

An economist who speaks the truth:

About as economist as I am a priest .....
JM Jancovici is often a bit of a hosiery, but for that you need to have talent, what he has.
Your gus, zero.

[izentrop]

JM Jancovici is often a bit of a hosiery, but for that you need to have talent, what he has.
Your gus, zero.

Not just good sources and he takes those from Janco.

[GuyGadebois]

An economist who speaks the truth:

About as economist as I am a priest .....
JM Jancovici is often a bit of a hosiery, but for that you need to have talent, what he has.
Your gus, zero.

Indeed, a real "first-of-the-class, first-class" asshole blasting a 40-year-old speech with connections I won't qualify to be polite.
Examples: https://grandangle2017.fr/guide-richesse/

[sicetaitsimple]

JM Jancovici is often a bit of a hosiery, but for that you need to have talent, what he has.
Your gus, zero.

Not just good sources and he takes those from Janco.

This is what I want to tell you, karaoke can be a fun entertainment but in general it is still not of a high standard compared to the original.