Green certificates will pay less

[Christophe]

This is well done for their mouth because their practices were on the verge of scam ... all energy specialists say it ...

But as said above: they are not going to toast that much ... because they know the real cost price of the panels they have put down ... they will just be less golden ... they will therefore less to lose than the installations which were overcharged ...

Another great example here: https://www.econologie.com/forums/prix-insta ... 12378.html

[Christophe]

Do you believe in chance in politics? Not me...

http://www.rtl.be/info/belgique/politiq ... erte-video

Belgium came close to blackout: "Let's support green energy less" (video)

This is what the deputy MR David Clarinval said this morning on Bel RTL. It was notably the shutdown of the Doel III and Tihange II nuclear power plants that deprived the network of 2.000 megawatts of electricity. David Clarinval called on the Secretary of State for Energy Melchior Wathelet on this subject and hopes that the subsidies linked to green energy will be less important.

[Christophe]

After the passionate articles, here is a little more detailed analysis: http://www.lavenir.net/article/detail.a ... 1_00285328

Is the Walloon government responsible for the green certificate crisis? Clearly yes. Because two or three years ago, when photovoltaics was booming, he did not see the imbalance of the market coming.

He did not perceive that what should remain an exception (the redemption of certificates by Elia guaranteed at 65 euros) was becoming the rule, thus creating a saturation which was going to have repercussions on households and Walloon companies.

But we don't rewrite history. And today, you have to manage. In this context, the Walloon government has little choice. He must make a decision that at the same time does not make the whole community bear the cost of green energy, while also not being unfair to those he has lured with great blows of incentives. While not jeopardizing the very existence of entrepreneurs who have embarked on the photovoltaic adventure presented as the Eldorado. Real Chinese puzzle.

So is lowering the guaranteed price for green certificates the right solution? "You have to go get the money somewhere" say some who believe that this money can only come from the pockets of those who have profited from the system, sometimes in a purely speculative way.

Except that many households have invested in photovoltaic panels by counting on certificates at 65 euros to repay their loan over a given period. And who, today justifiably frighten.

It is precisely on this aspect that the government is expected to turn. If he can find a system that allows households not to have to take an extra euro out of their pocket, fine. And will only be embittered by those who have finished paying for their installation and who will just see their electric “win for life” partially planed by the reduction in warranty.

On the other hand, if the change of rule during the game makes money financially thousands of people to whom the banks (we know them) will not make a gift, the Olivier will then have big accounts to account for.

And to its notorious error of not having slowed down the expansion of photovoltaics soon enough, we will add a total inability to manage its own wanderings without making the community bear the brunt. That would be very serious.

Will bankers still flower?

[elephant]

Let's not cry too much about most "households": they will return less quickly, of course, but most are "well-off" households that the state has thus helped to pay for less electricity.

The state was wrong:

1) to help the wealthy and owners rather than helping those who needed it most (including tenants whose owners do not want or cannot invest in insulation)
2) excessively favoring an energy solution that is less urgent than insulation and changing the boiler.
3) to be made b ....: many workers are borders and syldavians "Bolkenstein" belonging to companies of Eastern Europe and do not bring a kopek to the social security and taxes and not even to the Belgian economy because they are as poorly paid as at home.
4) all these measures have kept prices artificially high: the price of installed Wcrête has fallen by almost 40% since 2008
5) to rely on the finances of a third party (Elia!)
6) forget to recover the VAT evaded by the resale of KWh (shortfall for the state: on average 70 to 80 € / year)

We forget to say: that most depreciation calculations (except mine ) were done without taking into account the increase in the price per KWh.

On the other hand, those who will hurt the most, it is the companies that have set up win-win plans because they only benefit from the income of the CVs!

And when you see what's going on, these pennies are certainly better placed than in the banks

[Christophe]

+1 with everything except ...

On the other hand, those who will hurt the most, it is the companies that have set up win-win plans because they only benefit from the income of the CVs!

No if we are talking about pure financial profitability!

Because they did not pay the panels so expensive (for them it is the real wholesale price that counts ... obviously this price is "adapted" during marketing negotiations with the one who "lends" his roof). .that the "well-off" households you speak of ... so their profitability will be even better!

After if the CV goes to 0 for all, yes they will bite.

What is certain is that their business plan for the future is to be reviewed since now CVs will no longer exist for future installations ... but they can still live from CVs they have in their portfolio ...

[the middle]

There are governments that have resigned for less than that ...
I'm talking about scam in this case.

[Christophe]

Yes but I think that Walloon politicians are too proud for that ...

For once I am on the side of Flemish politicians (I break Walloon politicians)

[Christophe]

For LeJuste:

Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen of 1793: Article 35

When the government violates the rights of the people, insurrection is, for the people and for every portion of the people, the most sacred of rights and the most indispensable of duties.

Valid for Wallonia which was still French at the time ...

[the middle]

Hello Christopher,
Your text dates from the revolution, it seems to me.
just before Napoleon ...
Edited because forgot a capital letter to Napoleon

[Christophe]

Yes just after revolution ...

Wallonia was still in France ... and we practiced this at the time: http://www.wat.tv/video/execution-danto ... hnl3_.html

Politicians were killed in the public place that had a much greater social value than current policies (the only interest of which is now only to steal and restrain the people for the interests of the powerful)!

http://www.wat.tv/video/proces-danton-198rb_2hnl3_.html