It is especially a nice shot of the suiisses to ensure their energy independence, I think!
Purchases / sales are speculative, an epiphenomenon of network optimization and the 'load factor'
What needs to be balanced is how much it will balance in terms of RE output.
For me this is the challenge in the medium and long term.
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Yes and so? What are the estimated storage calculations in MWh (obviously renewable)?
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The necessary calculation is the load factor ratio "all producers combined" in a production mix, because renewable energies are impossible to separate in the mix!
Another point, only the wind is able to provide the night consistently.
And this ratio will fluctuate and evolve constantly, not ask me to calculate it ...
But beware, the renewables are in principle to be used "live". To prepare for it, we have to innovate. from now on, we would have to enact European standby / ignition standards BY ORDERS GIVEN VIA THE ELECTRICAL NETWORK according to the load. remotely be able to put consumption peripherals on standby, such as: fridges / freezers, heaters, intensity of lights / lights, battery chargers, and switching to standby mode of TV screens, computers and other devices. leisure "as play comsoles (for those who will have chosen the activation function on a voluntary basis) is one of the keys to the Amha energy efficiency model.
Another point, only the wind is able to provide the night consistently.
And this ratio will fluctuate and evolve constantly, not ask me to calculate it ...
But beware, the renewables are in principle to be used "live". To prepare for it, we have to innovate. from now on, we would have to enact European standby / ignition standards BY ORDERS GIVEN VIA THE ELECTRICAL NETWORK according to the load.
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It's the job of smart grids and smart meters, the famous linky which is hard to impose because fear of big brother and waves for some ... Although according to industrialistsObamot wrote:remotely be able to put consumption peripherals on standby, such as: fridges / freezers, heaters, intensity of lights / lights, battery chargers, and switching to standby mode of TV screens, computers and other devices. leisure "as play comsoles (for those who will have chosen the activation function on a voluntary basis) is one of the keys to the Amha energy efficiency model.
The European transition to a smart electricity grid will be able to dispense with smart meters, according to industrialists. A finding that may embarrass the Commission, as ERDF and Linky counter in France.
There are other more efficient ways than smart meters to develop smart grids, industry delegates said at the annual convention of the European Electricity Association - Eurelectric - held in Vilnius in early June.
http://www.euractiv.fr/section/energie/ ... ower-grid/
Even though the linky is at first communicating ...
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Yes, of course, these are all so-called "connected" systems.
So the day you can not update the app because of obsolescence of the OS, where if the guy who wrote the app closed shop: what do we do?
I will not put more than one spoil per post. Promised (when I put it).
The spoil is VERY VERY good. It allows to leave only the essential, and if the one who is interested wants to read the development, it is enough for him to clicker ... It avoids to have son too long in general view. And so makes reading easier.
So the day you can not update the app because of obsolescence of the OS, where if the guy who wrote the app closed shop: what do we do?
Christophe wrote:(It's a bit annoying all these uses of the SPOIL tag you're doing..Thank you for limiting)
I will not put more than one spoil per post. Promised (when I put it).
The spoil is VERY VERY good. It allows to leave only the essential, and if the one who is interested wants to read the development, it is enough for him to clicker ... It avoids to have son too long in general view. And so makes reading easier.
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"Connected" means connecting to the internet or to your smartphone. This is not the case with the smart grid.
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That's why I suggested a standard?
To prevent, for example, smart kids from seizing a niche market and making their own standard which will become "THE" de facto "standard"
To prevent, for example, smart kids from seizing a niche market and making their own standard which will become "THE" de facto "standard"
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The view of the mind does not emerge from the same domainChristophe wrote:And those who saw it, do they believe it?izentrop wrote:No, but those who believe in it either
Obamot wrote:That's why I suggested a standard?
To prevent, for example, smart kids from seizing a niche market and making their own standard which will become "THE" de facto "standard"
- Standards exist
- It does not prevent niche markets.
This morning, I heard hoteliers complaining about not having any more customers during sporting events and pointing fingers, Airbnb for example - It is up to the state to adapt the regulations to balance the markets.
- Instead, they get stuck in fighting from another age.
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Oh yes, I agree. Would a purge in politics as well to left only right (duality that does not mean anything anymore.)
In order to for example:
- to achieve in the matter of energies, to dissociate the pragmatic from the utopian.
- see in the longer term, in major projects, that the end of mining resources.
- in France there is between 3,5 and 5 million unemployed who are paid to do nothing >>> Belgium >>> Switzerland >>> Europe >>>
- these unemployed populations [and voluntarily] could very well be used for energy projects. When will major works be done in Europe?
- and of course introducing the UK (or something dignified), unemployment is one of the biggest scandals of our time - with speculation (enrichment on fictitious values) - that is are during.
Since the energy independence of the countries is a national issue (political and even military) major projects could revive the economy in a non-fictional way. And we would not ask the question of profitability, only the long-term result should count.
In order to for example:
- to achieve in the matter of energies, to dissociate the pragmatic from the utopian.
- see in the longer term, in major projects, that the end of mining resources.
- in France there is between 3,5 and 5 million unemployed who are paid to do nothing >>> Belgium >>> Switzerland >>> Europe >>>
- these unemployed populations [and voluntarily] could very well be used for energy projects. When will major works be done in Europe?
- and of course introducing the UK (or something dignified), unemployment is one of the biggest scandals of our time - with speculation (enrichment on fictitious values) - that is are during.
Since the energy independence of the countries is a national issue (political and even military) major projects could revive the economy in a non-fictional way. And we would not ask the question of profitability, only the long-term result should count.
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