How to set a Windmaster for 600 black?

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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by Revox » 16/05/22, 22:26

izentrop wrote:
Revox wrote:I have made a correction, the production is 3 kw for 2 years.
This is power data, the energy is indicated in KWh.
What is the power delivered when the wind is medium to strong?

With 20% wind per year and 500 W of power delivered to the meter, production should be 365 * 24 * 0.5 * 0.2 = 876 KWh/year.
There is indeed a discomfort.

Are you in a windy region and not in a valley bottom (already seen : roll:)?



As soon as there is decent wind, I look at the values.
I am high up, well cleared (2 km view)... In the Somme, 50 km from the sea...
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by Revox » 16/05/22, 22:37

sicetaitsimple wrote:I'm not a specialist, but your inverters seem to require a minimum input voltage of 45V DC (between 45 and 125V), which your wind turbine does not seem to be able to provide, which seems designed to work on 24V batteries according to its file technical.
http://www.aurore-energies.com/onduleur ... eseau.html

Did it work one day, that wind turbine, I mean before you bought the house?



Yes it seems strange to me too, Despite all the inverter triggers (goes from red to orange), but to say this it produces !!!! When on Sunday I connected and then compared to the reading 2 years ago, it struck me.

This installation was done by professionals with former owner.
According to the documents at my disposal, it was installed in 2011.
To say that it worked correctly, I doubt it... and the equipment has not changed since the installation.
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by izentrop » 16/05/22, 23:21

Revox wrote:To say that it worked correctly, I doubt it... and the equipment has not changed since the installation.
The former owner seems to have been scammed.

This model seems ideal for working with your wind turbine https://www.comptoireolien.fr/onduleurs ... page1.html, but before you will have to measure if it delivers between 26 and 33 V as indicated on your documentation.
I am high up, well cleared (2 km view)... In the Somme, 50 km from the sea...
On this side, no worries, moreover not far from my home, I must be a hundred km from Fort-Mahon : Wink:
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by Obamot » 16/05/22, 23:25

Revox wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:I'm not a specialist, but your inverters seem to require a minimum input voltage of 45V DC (between 45 and 125V), which your wind turbine does not seem to be able to provide, which seems designed to work on 24V batteries according to its file technical.
http://www.aurore-energies.com/onduleur ... eseau.html

Did it work one day, that wind turbine, I mean before you bought the house?



Yes it seems strange to me too, Despite all the inverter triggers (goes from red to orange), but to say this it produces !!!! When on Sunday I connected and then compared to the reading 2 years ago, it struck me.

This installation was done by professionals with former owner.
According to the documents at my disposal, it was installed in 2011.
To say that it worked correctly, I doubt it... and the equipment has not changed since the installation.

2011 ...?
wow... Just one thing, when was the last maintenance? Because after ten years the axis may be a little seized up... if the wind turbine no longer rotates freely on its axis, it will no longer be oriented facing the wind and as a result will produce nothing or much less.
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by Revox » 17/05/22, 07:51

Obamot wrote:
Revox wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:I'm not a specialist, but your inverters seem to require a minimum input voltage of 45V DC (between 45 and 125V), which your wind turbine does not seem to be able to provide, which seems designed to work on 24V batteries according to its file technical.
http://www.aurore-energies.com/onduleur ... eseau.html

Did it work one day, that wind turbine, I mean before you bought the house?



Yes it seems strange to me too, Despite all the inverter triggers (goes from red to orange), but to say this it produces !!!! When on Sunday I connected and then compared to the reading 2 years ago, it struck me.

This installation was done by professionals with former owner.
According to the documents at my disposal, it was installed in 2011.
To say that it worked correctly, I doubt it... and the equipment has not changed since the installation.

2011 ...?
wow... Just one thing, when was the last maintenance? Because after ten years the axis may be a little seized up... if the wind turbine no longer rotates freely on its axis, it will no longer be oriented facing the wind and as a result will produce nothing or much less.



On this subject everything works well, it rotates freely in the vertical and horizontal axis.
I know that there have been checks in the meantime...
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by sicetaitsimple » 17/05/22, 18:26

I found a thread from more than 10 years ago on the same machine as yours.

renewable-energy/opinion-on-wind-turbine-futurenergy-windup-1000w-t10153-30.html

It was initiated by Forhorse, which has been a regular contributor to the forum but who, like many others, hardly intervenes anymore, I imagine given the drift of the forum towards themes and opinions whose relationship with "econology" is not really obvious.

You can maybe try to send him a private message, if he passes by there he will see it. He will (perhaps) be able to tell you the rest of his story and above all tell you what performance you can expect from the machine in real life.
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by Revox » 22/05/22, 13:17

sicetaitsimple wrote:I found a thread from more than 10 years ago on the same machine as yours.

renewable-energy/opinion-on-wind-turbine-futurenergy-windup-1000w-t10153-30.html

It was initiated by Forhorse, which has been a regular contributor to the forum but who, like many others, hardly intervenes anymore, I imagine given the drift of the forum towards themes and opinions whose relationship with "econology" is not really obvious.

You can maybe try to send him a private message, if he passes by there he will see it. He will (perhaps) be able to tell you the rest of his story and above all tell you what performance you can expect from the machine in real life.


Hello,

I just had a return from this person, not installed because of the neighborhood....

Small question at the level of the inverter, what would you put as a setting as it is, on the Mastervolt 600?
Since it was set up to do a test, I understood that in the end I have to change my wind turbine or inverter....

Thank you for voting back
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by sicetaitsimple » 22/05/22, 13:36

As far as I'm concerned, I said, "I'm not an expert".
So I have no advice to give you, I just note that according to their data sheets, the output voltage of the wind turbine and the input voltage of the inverters do not seem compatible.
But there are certainly solutions, but I don't know them!
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by Obamot » 22/05/22, 14:05

Revox wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:I found a thread from more than 10 years ago on the same machine as yours.

renewable-energy/opinion-on-wind-turbine-futurenergy-windup-1000w-t10153-30.html

It was initiated by Forhorse, which has been a regular contributor to the forum but who, like many others, hardly intervenes anymore, I imagine given the drift of the forum towards themes and opinions whose relationship with "econology" is not really obvious.

You can maybe try to send him a private message, if he passes by there he will see it. He will (perhaps) be able to tell you the rest of his story and above all tell you what performance you can expect from the machine in real life.


Hello,

I just had a return from this person, not installed because of the neighborhood....

Small question at the level of the inverter, what would you put as a setting as it is, on the Mastervolt 600?
Since it was set up to do a test, I understood that in the end I have to change my wind turbine or inverter....

Thank you for voting back
And I would add that insofar as you don't have past production statistics, you don't have a point of comparison. it is therefore difficult to make projections.

I am not an expert either, but what it would be worth checking in a preliminary way is si with a given wind speed (which must still be able to be measured at the service height), does the wind turbine produce current at nominal values ​​(according to its theoretical capacities). but you sounded like you said the install was verified not too long ago.

Perhaps you have the instructions for the wind turbine, there may be various information on its capacities?

Failing this and as it stands, there is no element that could allow you to think that you should change your wind turbine.
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Re: How to configure a windmaster for a black 600?




by Revox » 22/05/22, 14:14

Obamot wrote:
Revox wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:I found a thread from more than 10 years ago on the same machine as yours.

renewable-energy/opinion-on-wind-turbine-futurenergy-windup-1000w-t10153-30.html

It was initiated by Forhorse, which has been a regular contributor to the forum but who, like many others, hardly intervenes anymore, I imagine given the drift of the forum towards themes and opinions whose relationship with "econology" is not really obvious.

You can maybe try to send him a private message, if he passes by there he will see it. He will (perhaps) be able to tell you the rest of his story and above all tell you what performance you can expect from the machine in real life.


Hello,

I just had a return from this person, not installed because of the neighborhood....

Small question at the level of the inverter, what would you put as a setting as it is, on the Mastervolt 600?
Since it was set up to do a test, I understood that in the end I have to change my wind turbine or inverter....

Thank you for voting back
And I would add that insofar as you don't have past production statistics, you don't have a point of comparison. it is therefore difficult to make projections.

I am not an expert either, but what it would be worth checking in a preliminary way is si with a given wind speed (which must still be able to be measured at the service height), does the wind turbine offer current production at the nominal values, according to its theoretical capacities. but you sounded like you said the install was verified not too long ago.

Failing this and as it stands, there is no element that could allow you to think that you should change your wind turbine.



Currently it does not produce due to poor adjustment and unsuitable equipment.
So I start from zero.

Today, with this installation, I don't have to lose the inverter as I can... I only have this choice before leaving for the expenses, and seeing the result.

But with the elements at the beginning of my conversation, in the Mastervolt I don't know what to put. I don't want to damage the installation
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