Wind Turbine and Patents for Inventions

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by Remundo » 05/09/08, 12:45

Hi Michelmore, hello everyone,

As far as I'm concerned, I'm not at all upset, on the contrary, your intervention is very constructive, in particular because it traces a "historical" course.

I find your judgment a bit harsh on eolprocess, although the technical difficulties you raise are justified. He also made an error of appreciation by saying that his machine will have an extraordinary performance compared to a three-bladed, I quote "because the three-bladed lets all the wind pass."

In fact, Eolprocess would, as you say, need to validate its structure and mecaflux calculations. The concept is not so bad from my point of view. However, we should be around 25% yield, I say that of course intuitively and unfounded ...

Regarding patents. I'm not a fan of it, far from it. It is essentially a question of obtaining authorship over the invention supported by the INPI's prior art research.

There are as many ways to use a patent as there are applicants. Massive international strategies are only reserved for large groups. This is unattainable and unreasonable even for good sized SMEs.

Otherwise, every day, case law and / or misappropriation (patent-breakers) break patents, brands and models posed at great cost to SGDG factories (without government guarantee) that are INPI and WIPO.

I say provocatively that if there is one way to be poorly protected, it is to make patents and only patents.

On the other hand, the fact of applying for a patent and then disclosing it on forums, a website is much more powerful and inexpensive. Everything that is disclosed is no longer patentable or exploitable, except by those who hold the copyright on the invention, consisting of the sole disclosure, and in the event of litigation, the provision of justice to even a non-functional or incomplete prototype ...

Large Groups, despite their financial power, fear Copyright, and it is generally with this property right intellectual (and not industrial ...) that the most resounding lawsuits are being made for firms industrial.


The restriction of protection to the field of the patent stricto sensu is illusory: Saint Hilaire is known worldwide for being the so-called creator of the Quasiturbine: as Jean Pierre Ambert says, he created only the name and not the machine.

Even Mr. Ambert who re-invented the concept in good faith in 1980 was confronted with prior art of a deformable diamond motor with 4 rotating blades in a substantially elliptical enclosure ...

The only thing Saint Hilaire did was to wriggle his claims, and it ended up happening, even by roughly reworking the exact same thing ... 4 blades in an elliptical enclosure: the rotary diamond motor!

Small revealing example of the eye powder that is a patent (in defiance of the considerable expense it generates internationally), in terms of operating rights, even for a large group ... a small piece of paper close to that of a lotto ticket. You can win a lot rarely and lose a lot most of the time. :D


Thank you for your complimentary remarks on the creations of Jam Pascal, Marcel and SYCOMOREEN; and I would say that you haven't seen everything yet! :P
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by Lietseu » 05/09/08, 22:49

Christophe wrote:
Lietseu wrote:He is wary of the Trolls, without a doubt, he described them to me, they reek of the avaricious and the interested at 1000Meters.


And himself? Doesn't he have a big head? Independent inventor's syndrome?

Because when he dares to say on TV (when he only did a proto)

My wind turbine will cost 50% less expensive than conventional wind turbines with equivalent installed power


I find it very ... pretentious ...

Then he seeks gigantism ... and there he has not finished losing money ...

Let him make a wind turbine from 1 to 5kW for everyone and we sell him some on the econo shop ...


Hi Christophe, good evening everyone :D
I understand your skepticism, but when life doesn't give someone a gift, it doesn't get as stupid as the people who led the guy into the deepest trouble!
As I wrote earlier, he only has the twist of believing in what he is doing and is surrounded by a few people he trusts, it did not make me feel like I was "swollen with helium "nor" to have the big head ", proposals of very powerful groups were made to him, the representatives of the USA gave him a white signature to return to the United States (he showed it to me, I I'm not a paperwork specialist, but this paper, I had already seen it elsewhere) just as he met people very imbued with their people who would have bought his "bauble" for 10.000 € ... so I do not believe to a hoax, or to a madman.

His reasoning is very well supported by the difference that there is between gear that weighs hundreds of tonnes, and probably as much in cash, but that you must know!
As you should know, if you are not the boss of a big box with all powerful financiers behind you, there is not much chance of achieving something!?!

No, he is not "looking for gigantism", but he is thinking big because he also believes - and he is not the only one - that what currently exists as a wind turbine is not only very unreliable, very expensive in maintenance, and therefore also, very expensive for the community! He explains himself very well by the way in his little analysis…

If wind power should be part of the solutions for the future, I do not see "monsters" like those that we see everywhere being installed in the structure of buildings of the kind that we are about to build in defense. in Paris or in the Gulf countries.
Wind turbines like his, yes, and if they were integrated into the structure of large buildings, we wouldn't even see them! Ditto in the landscapes.

The idea of ​​making wind turbines for the individual, not only did he think about it, but in addition he heard it from my mouth, and we can hear that what we want is not it?
I must contact him and I will tell him about our little family, rest assured!
:D Rather than criticize the man and his invention, if we crossed our fingers to wish him success in his business ??? : Mrgreen:
: Mrgreen: In two years, on sale on econology : Mrgreen:

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by Christophe » 05/09/08, 22:56

Lietseu wrote:Rather than criticize the man and his invention, if we crossed our fingers to wish him success in his business ???: Mrgreen:
: Mrgreen: In two years, on sale on econology : Mrgreen:


Better, an "ECONOLOGY association" could even finance this work ...he would remain owner but the members of the association would have preferential rates (at cost price for example) of his wind turbine or the plans for self-construction!

Isn't that a rich idea? Good who sticks to the drafting of the statutes?
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by Lietseu » 05/09/08, 23:14

Christophe wrote:
Lietseu wrote:Rather than criticize the man and his invention, if we crossed our fingers to wish him success in his business ???: Mrgreen:
: Mrgreen: In two years, on sale on econology : Mrgreen:


Better, an "ECONOLOGY association" could even finance this work ...he would remain owner but the members of the association would have preferential rates (at cost price for example) of his wind turbine or the plans for self-construction!

Isn't that a rich idea? Good who sticks to the drafting of the statutes?

You!
Paperwork is nothing to me :P

But, I think there is an idea and I am writing to him tomorrow, to ask him if that tempts him !? Chiche ...

I'm going to sleep with a smile on my face tonight, all is not lost yet 8)
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by Lietseu » 05/09/08, 23:29

Swedish Home Energy designed a spherical wind turbine
(src: Home Energy, wikipedia, inhabitat)
The Swedish company Home energy recently unveiled a wind turbine named Energy Ball which rotates like a sphere on a horizontal axis.
By adapting the Venturi ** principle, the Energy Ball channels air through its six blades and thus supplies the generator. This spherical wind turbine would have properties capable of increasing its rotation performance while lowering the noise level; which would make it ideal for small-scale energy production.
Picture there: http://france.home-energy.com/
and there for the technical details yes! there are numbers guys !!!

http://france.home-energy.com/v100specifications.htm

The spherical wind turbine can be installed on the roof of individual homes, rural businesses and why not public establishments. According to the designers, the device can reach up to six times the wind speed.

The V 200 model generates up to 2 watt for a wind speed between 500 m / s and 3 m / s. The diameter of the turbine reaches 40 m for a weight of 1,98 kg.



** The Venturi effect (from the name of the Italian physicist Giovanni Battista Venturi) is the name given to a phenomenon in fluid dynamics where gaseous or liquid particles are found to be accelerated due to a narrowing of their circulation area.

A reason to sign an agreement with them ???
What do you think ?
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by Remundo » 05/09/08, 23:46

Christophe wrote:Better, an "ECONOLOGY association" could even finance this work ...he would remain owner but the members of the association would have preferential rates (at cost price for example) of his wind turbine or the plans for self-construction!

Isn't that a rich idea?


Yes, it is a very good idea to dig ...

Here, tomorrow morning, I publish on your forum the Stirling machine with TriLobic Annular Rotary Pistons (SPRATL) designed from the original Pascal HA PHAM machine.

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The most curious and insomniacs can watch now on http://sycomoreen.free.fr

Everything is there. : Idea:
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by Lietseu » 05/09/08, 23:49

Did you see the link?

http://france.home-energy.com/v100specifications.htm

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by Christophe » 05/09/08, 23:51

Lietseu wrote:Did you see the link?

http://france.home-energy.com/v100specifications.htm

Sleep well !


Importers of Chinese products it looks like right?
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by Lietseu » 05/09/08, 23:54

Christophe wrote:
Lietseu wrote:Did you see the link?

http://france.home-energy.com/v100specifications.htm

Sleep well !


Importers of Chinese products it looks like right?


read my previous post, with the explanation you have to hi, hi!

La Swedish company Home energy

Hello :P
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by Christophe » 06/09/08, 00:03

Oh you don't read sorry ...

On the site they have their address in NL not in Sweden ...
We can't buy anything yet ...
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