Geothermal maintenance contract: prices that flare

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Geothermal maintenance contract: prices that flare




by Bolmont » 02/07/09, 19:30

Hello,

I had geothermal heating and hot water installed in 2001
I can only congratulate myself on this choice
the installation has been depreciated in 5 years and everything works fine
the only problem is the evolution of the price of the annual maintenance contract

from 2001 to 2003 140 euros
in 2004 150 euros
from 2005 to 2007 175 euros
in 2008 200 euros
and in 2009 271 euros

it shocks me
I would like to know several things

1) does this rate seem normal to you and what is the regulation concerning the maintenance of the heat pumps with sensor in the ground?
2) am I obliged to go through my installer?
3) if you do not know a craftsman in my Bordeaux region?

apart from this concern I can only advise this kind of heating

cordially
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by bobono » 02/07/09, 21:14

A geothermal installation with sensor in the ground does not require annual maintenance and can work very well 20 years and more. Only the cartridge to dehydrate the gas can be replaced.

I have closer neighbor who have this type of equipment since 6 years without any problem so why not you.
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by futuranat » 03/07/09, 18:32

Ditto, and I'm not a specialist in the trick (just installing a PAC France Geothermal), but I too boasted the solid side of techno, a priori an annual interview does not seem necessary.
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by elephant » 04/07/09, 15:27

The retail price index (in Belgium) has increased by about 16-17% from 2000 to 2009, so not enough to grow from 175 to 275 euros.
Now, one must demand to know which operations consist of standard maintenance and which supplies are included in the price. Is an omnium contract including any repairs.

See also the influence of travel expenses, because it is true that in the case, the price of fuel and the time spent on the road (we roll more and more slowly : Cry: and there are more and more traffic tickets) that have risen sharply and that may have been under-rated in 2001.

See also the duration of this interview

Nothing prevents to make a call for tender specifying the type of material used.
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by futuranat » 17/07/09, 09:17

I add a little layer. If I read correctly, your contract dates from 2001, this may explain that. Today, there is a sector awareness of the importance of respecting customer contracts that makes me think that sort of thing could not happen anymore.
I take my example France Geothermics but one of the things that convinced me is that they have set up a charter of trust with real commitments, not blabla marketing, following problems with dealers they had at the beginning of their activity.
In my opinion, to sign a geothermal contract today, it is essential to ask for documents of this kind to avoid any unpleasant surprises.
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by Christophe » 17/07/09, 09:26

futuranat wrote:I take my example France Geothermics but one of the things that convinced me is that they have set up a charter of trust with real commitments, not blabla marketing, following problems with dealers they had at the beginning of their activity.


Question: This charter was put after how many lawsuits against FG? Some are still in progress ...

It's funny to accuse the dealers because they, who go bankrupt and lose feathers therefore, accuse the management of FG about the huge entry fees (70 000 € I believe ... must be building to win this ... any charges deducted) and the commercial margins too low (obliged to buy the stuff in their network) ... There was a file on top in one of the last issues of Que Choisir. It's not pink ...

As for the initial question of the price of maintenance contracts, apart from the fact that it is not necessarily necessary, I would say that it is in the current "logic of things": "everyone" seeks to benefit from everyone ... especially in France ... I believe ... : Evil:

You will notice that the most glaring increase has been since the arrival of Sarko at the Elysee (before 2007 the increase was "correct") ... a coincidence? Maybe not...
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by dbercy » 18/07/09, 19:48

futuranat wrote:I take my example France Geothermics but one of the things that convinced me is that they have set up a charter of trust with real commitments, not blabla marketing, following problems with dealers they had at the beginning of their activity.
In my opinion, to sign a geothermal contract today, it is essential to ask for documents of this kind to avoid any unpleasant surprises.

Ouhla ..... france geothermal is a very bad example, hundreds of customers left behind, suicides of dealers, bankruptcy of dealers, it is a perfect example :x it is only the marketing to the contrary, the bulk of their budget goes into advertising and still many problems on the ground at the moment, to avoid absolutely! : Evil:

In addition, they make a lawsuit to the dissatisfied customers, well the know !!!! :|
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by futuranat » 23/07/09, 17:07

Hi Christopher,

Ben I am subscribed to What to choose (essential, they remain how many independent newspapers in France?) And I did not find the article so hard that, I expected worse given what I have read in some forums. Besides, it gave a little the impression that the journalist was looking for a big subject and that the story is quite deflated.
After, you seem to know better than me the story. Now, nobody is forcing someone to become a dealer. Especially since some are doing very well.
I do not throw stones at those who have trouble, huh, it takes a great courage to embark on this kind of adventure but I also think that sometimes we have to admit that we do not have enough solid kidneys for everything
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by Christophe » 23/07/09, 17:13

No, I don't know the "dossier" any more than that ... I look at FG's growth and I see (under the testimonies of others, I have never dealt with FG) that all is not rosy ...

That's all...
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by dbercy » 23/07/09, 17:38

I am regularly informed of the progress of the problems of FG via the president of the collective of the victims of FG which here is the site:
http://www.collectif-france-geothermie- ... infos.html
and the ongoing problems ...........
every month, a new balance sheet of dealer FG and hundreds of customers on the sidelines: a massacre! :x
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