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by hic » 08/06/10, 17:07

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Derisory!

A cost of $ 18.000 billion to switch to green electricity in 2050 at 95% at € 7 per month per human being for 20 years

OSLO, June 7 (Reuters) - A $ 18.000 trillion investment by 2030 globally would make a radical shift and move away from fossil fuels so that 95% of global electricity production comes from renewable energy by 2050, according to a report released Monday.


http://www.euroinvestor.fr/news/story.aspx?id=11108678

http://www.electron-economy.org/article ... 52070.html
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by Remundo » 08/06/10, 17:25

derisory ...

for poor countries no.

But that said, the global military budget annual is of the same order of magnitude as the renewable energy investments that would be made once and for all.

For example, in the USA, it is $ 1000 billion / year for the army.

that means freezing the global military budget only one year builds a 100% renewable energy mix.

Obviously, it's utopian.

However, Einstein said ...

"2 things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity ... For the Universe, I have not yet acquired absolute certainty ..."
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by hic » 08/06/10, 18:05

Remundo wrote:derisory ...

for poor countries no.

But that said, the global military budget annual is of the same order of magnitude as the renewable energy investments that would be made once and for all.

For example, in the USA, it is $ 1000 billion / year for the army.

that means freezing the global military budget only one year builds a 100% renewable energy mix.

Obviously, it's utopian.

However, Einstein said ...

"2 things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity ... For the Universe, I have not yet acquired absolute certainty ..."


Utopian

at € 42 per head,
the wealthiest countries will do it

usa at 260Million head
europe to 350 million
japan at 200 million
Total at 1 Billion

Selfish
at 42 € per head for France
the objectives will be reached in less than 5 or 10 years
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by sen-no-sen » 08/06/10, 21:12

It would be interesting to know what types of technologies they refer to in establishing such a cost?

I think that with the best technology we could cut expenses by 2 easily!
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by Christophe » 09/06/10, 15:01

"Not profitable enough my son ..."

I have not yet read the links in detail but 1 first reaction.

Even if this (low) figure was multiplied by 10 (children, "too" poor ... see remundo's remark), it remains very little ... especially for us the rich! For example, it is much less than the car budget of all French people !!

But it is perhaps not so much the investment that poses the problem as the capitalism that governs us ... "We" invest in what pays the most the fastest. Bar point. And green electricity renewable energy is not competitive on this point at present ... in X years the situation will be different ... but today it is an unstoppable fact !!

The "risk" is (generally) not a predominant factor in the investment (except on the marketing brochures of course) ... it is not in the short term so certainly not in the long term as is the case climate change ...

We just saw it in the BP oil spill in the new mexico!

Then there will always remain the problem of "oil transport" ... and the lifespan of renewable installations that will have to be changed well before 2050 (does the calculation take this into account?)?
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by Remundo » 09/06/10, 16:06

that's why I was talking about utopia,

there is the market aspect, but also the military aspect. In short, a lot of well-padlocked locks.

I have already written it several times, even superabundant clean energy is not a technical problem.
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by Christophe » 09/06/10, 16:11

Yes raymond, in the same vein of investment, investing 1/10 of the global advertising budget = end of world hunger and this in the long term ... But it's not the priority ... obviously!

Watch the film 99F with Dujardin, really interesting if you like "transferred" films ... we love it or we hate I think :)
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by Christophe » 09/06/10, 17:07

These $ 18 billion are to be compared to the earnings of crude oil ...

Read the article on crude oil money

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In 2010 ca must tate the 50 billion in cumulative, just on the crude transactions (there are no taxes and charges). This is to be compared to the 000 billion ...

I think we are getting deep but I think we like it ... :|
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by Remundo » 09/06/10, 17:14

it is especially that one cannot do too much otherwise ...

for the moment.
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by Christophe » 09/06/10, 17:19

Yes, we always have a choice ... the decision-makers much more than us the "lower" people ...
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