Louisiana and BP: Methane hydrate is acting up

[Christophe]

Ben just has to invent jet skis that run rough with an integrated marine harvester and hop a jet ski with 5000 km of autonomy

[Econosaurus]

In 2011, we will get used to bathing in oil pellets on the Atlantic beaches, like when I learned to windsurf in Villefranche sur mer in 1978 with my children and we didn't talk about it then !!!!

The proof in pictures : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QwsCHd7Lcg

It sucks in Florida
Watch the video carefully and also pay attention to the color of the water: Cis it because of the camera, or the water is really yellow because of the dispersants?

Aother question: Is it possible to clean up by keeping the oil (at home for example), to then resell it and get a little under money ? ((instead of throwing everything I don't know where).

Une small and last question that bothers me: In general, when "cleaning" a beach, where does the collected oil go? Incinerated? Wash ? Resold?

[Christophe]

I believe that during the Erika oil spill, it was strictly forbidden to pick up oil for personal use!

And it seems to me that the "bituminous" sand recovered from the beaches is either incinerated (I don't know where or how) or treated in the refinery (if "interesting" enough in terms of the load).

To confirm...

2 other interesting news about the oil spill:

The Obama administration persists in wanting to suspend offshore drilling, LeMonde.fr with AFP, 23/06/10, 06:53 am

Faced with the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the White House announces that it will take new measures to suspend drilling in deep water after the cancellation in the day by a judge of the moratorium decided by President Barack Obama. "We observe every day the need to mark a pause in the drilling in deep water, while the oil continues to leak from the BP well," said Secretary of Internal Affairs Ken Salazar in a statement.
Judge Martin Feldman, who sits in New Orleans, ruled Tuesday has thirty-two oil companies who had filed an appeal against the six-month moratorium. The White House immediately retaliated by announcing its decision to appeal. "The court concluded that the plaintiffs would undoubtedly succeed in demonstrating that the [government] decision was arbitrary and unfounded," the magistrate said. "President [Obama] is fundamentally convinced (...) that continuing to drill at these depths without knowing what happened [during the explosion of the DeepWater Horizon platform two months ago] does not makes no sense, "White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said before Mr. Salazar's announcement.

The moratorium was decided on May 27 by President Barack Obama after the explosion, on April 20, of the Deepwater Horizon platform, causing the worst oil spill in the history of the United States.
By deciding on the moratorium, Obama had partly backtracked on his government's controversial project, announced at the end of March, which planned to multiply drilling at sea. But the measure also angered the leaders and employees of the sector oil producer from the southern states fearing to lose their livelihood despite the oil spill hitting their coast. In Congress, the cancellation of the moratorium was greeted coldly by elected officials responsible for energy issues.
On Tuesday, even before the announcement of Judge Feldman's decision, BP official Steve Westwell pleaded for the continuation of deep-sea oil projects despite the oil spill. "It would be a serious mistake to create an environment which makes investment in deep water impossible," he said on behalf of BP chief executive Tony Hayward at a world congress of oil companies in London.

The Senate studies the revision of the rules concerning drilling

Elected officials of the US Senate's Energy and Natural Resources Committee on Tuesday introduced a bill to reform US offshore drilling rules, as oil continues to spill over into the Gulf of Mexico . The text plans to revise the responsibilities of the secretary to internal affairs, concerning "the management, supervision, responsibility, security, and environmental protection of all resources" located off the American coasts. The bill also provides more security for offshore drilling activities, including the development of new techniques. It strengthens inspections by forcing companies to pay for the training of sufficiently well-trained inspectors.

http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2 ... _3244.html

United States. Oil spill and end of the world, Courrier International, 23/06/10 John Leland, The New York Times

The end of oil is a catastrophic scenario with potentially dramatic consequences. More and more Americans are preparing for it and considering life after, tells the New York Times.
That Saturday, while oil continues to spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Jennifer Wilkerson spends three hours on the phone talking about life after oil. Thirty-three years old, moderate democrat, designer of computer interfaces, she lives in Oakton, in Virginia. The oil spill reinforces his obsession: the consumption of oil depletes the world's reserves. She worries about the aftermath: food shortage, collapse of the economy, disappearance of civil order. His phone call is part of a survival course.
In times of crisis, the end of the world is all the rage. Americans have long been fascinated by disaster scenarios, from population explosion to global warming, including the Cold War. The Cassandras are making a new fixation today: the end of petroleum. For them, the reserves reached their maximum level in 2008 and will quickly decline, bringing the economy with them. In 2005, Roscoe G. Bartlett, Republican representative of Maryland, and Tom Udall, Democratic representative of New Mexico (now a senator) even created the Commission on the End of Oil in Congress.
Andre Angelantoni does not intend to take risks. He stored supplies in his home in San Rafael, California, and converted his investments to gold and silver. The decline in oil resources will have brutal effects, he says.
Angelantoni, 40, is a web designer and founder of the company Post Peak Living, which offers online and telephone courses to survive after oil. He started getting interested at the end of the oil after looking at global warming because he thought the impact would be more brutal. “The debate on the end of oil is where the debate on global warming was twenty years ago.” As with many of the participants in the telephone course, his concerns strained his relationship with his wife and created an “unbridgeable” distance between them. “People have a hard time understanding that our form of economy is crumbling. They think that since it has not happened yet, it will never happen, ”he laments.
Sinister books sell like hot cakes, like The End of Oil: The True Challenge of the XNUMXst Century, by James Howard Kunstler, or Oil: The Party is Over !, by Richard Heinberg. Jennifer Wilkerson has read over XNUMX books on the subject and what will follow. At one point, she felt depressed at her job and had a hard time arguing with her husband. Her co-workers told her bluntly that they “were sick of hearing about this,” she says. They thought I would exaggerate to think that everything was going to fall apart. ” She adds: “I was ready to leave the country to start organic farming but I learned that this is not the way to do it. We need a community. "
Transition US, offspring of a British association which helps cities prepare for a life after oil, started with two cells in 2008 and now has 68. Among other projects, it proposes the creation of community vegetable gardens and the establishment of a local currency in case the national currency collapses. Even if the association has grown rapidly, the movement has been much easier to get across to Great Britain, explains Raven Gray, who came to the United States to set up a branch there. If Americans readily embrace end-of-the-world scenarios, they are less likely to work together on how to survive, she said. “There are many proponents of the apocalypse in environmental circles. Many have been shocked to see an optimistic view of the future. We are driven by a dark vision but we are in the process of moving to a positive picture of what we can do. ” Mrs. Wilkerson is now growing vegetables in her kitchen. The course, which costs 175 dollars, encouraged her to go in this direction.
“Whether or not there is a collapse, being able to teach others how to grow enough to eat so that they can cope with adversity is time well spent,” she said.
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Landmarks: World Petroleum Reserve
In the 1940s, geophysicist Marion King Hubbert suggested that the production curve for a raw material, and in particular oil, followed a bell curve. This curve became famous when he made an official presentation to the American Petroleum Institute (API) in 1956, emphasizing two important points: this bell curve goes through a maximum, indicating that production necessarily declines thereafter, and it is relatively symmetrical with respect to this maximum.
Hubbert deduced that American oil production would go through a maximum in 1970. His presentation was little appreciated by his peers and forgotten until 1971, the year when American production reached its maximum and then declined, in accordance with his forecasts.

http://vert.courrierinternational.com/node/790518

[Econosaurus]

OK, thank you bcp for the info! At the same time so much the better that one cannot use it, because one would undoubtedly do it anyhow and there will be a danger for health.

On the other hand, the 3rd document concerning the young woman who is dying for post-oil, it is limited: we estimate a leak at 5000 barrels, then 20, we come back to 000 and then we go to 15 Basically, we absolutely do not know (for lack of means and knowledge), what remains as oil (and even less to make an estimate for conventional oil).

The end of oil is announced by the biggest to justify very high prices.
By then, we will have already had two or three nuclear disasters (without being pessimistic).

Isn't there an oil specialist on Econologie.com? (Like an ex worker in this oil world)

[Christophe]

Isn't there an oil specialist on Econologie.com? (Like an ex worker in this oil world)

If there are some but why EX?

Macro works in an oil depot: https://www.econologie.com/forums/membre7749.html

[gildas]

Hello,

The oil leak becomes frightening. http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/Nouv250610Kapagen.htm

[Econosaurus]

If there are some but why EX?

Uh ... I don't know, it's an eco-fault


@ Gildas:

Your document is cold in the back. If I understood correctly, the authors imply that it will be difficult to stop the leak? Even through relief wells to lower the pressure? Hot all that.

On the other hand, I do not really agree with the doc on the fact that BP would hide the images from us so as not to show the extent of the damage. There is still an armada of underwater cameras, at least one of which is constantly focused on the flow of oil.
After that they hid the circumstances of the disaster from us is another story.

What does Macro think of a nuclear bomb in a parallel well (as done in Russia for the gas leak), which, due to its detonation, would crush the pipe of the leak? The porous sedimentary layers may contain gases a bit like a sponge: risk with the atomic?

[Flytox]

Hello gildas

Hello,

The oil leak becomes frightening. http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/Nouv250610Kapagen.htm

There are ways to find other sources to corroborate what this guy says .... If he is right, the days of civilization are numbered in the hands of such irresponsible ......

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xds5g1 ... d?start=99

[Christophe]

Hello,

The oil leak becomes frightening. http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/Nouv250610Kapagen.htm

It's been on econo for a few days: https://www.econologie.com/explications- ... -4274.html

[Cuicui]

It's been on econo for a few days: https://www.econologie.com/explications- ... -4274.html

Jean-Pierre Petit also analyzes the situation here:
http://www.jp-petit.org/nouv_f/maree_no ... exique.htm