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Re: Nuclear continues in the world




by Janic » 01/09/23, 08:03

I don't know if you noticed it, but the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is constantly increasing.
quite! These shows have to go somewhere.
Your "rejection time" is therefore just a big joke, an invention.
not quite! In the theory of evolution it is accepted that initially the blue ball was the object of fantastic emissions of all kinds of releases by the intensive volcanization which can still be measured today, which would have prevented the formation of the air that we know today and yet our atmosphere is present. So pollution only seems important on the current scale where the hand of humans has upset the systems in precarious balances.
And for once, "no one until now is able to know the direct and indirect effects over these thousands of years on the terrestrial and marine flora and fauna." That's true.
quite right too: no one knows anything about it, but overvaluing one to the detriment of the other is an abuse of thought. It's a bit like having to choose between death by hanging, by guillotine, by poisoning, etc... the result, over generations, is the same... as with vaccines, to please the simpleton! Or the chemicals, the ozone layer and elsewhere the plastics, nobody knew, at the beginning, what impact that would have! : roll:
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by Remundo » 04/09/23, 09:20

on the other hand in France, he stopped for Fessenheim... we have geniuses in power!
On September 1, 2023, the Fessenheim nuclear power plant will officially cease to exist, to pass into the hands of the authorities responsible for its dismantling. The end of an epic started in 1977, which will have offered the country, in a little over forty years, 440 TWh of low-carbon electricity… Or approximately the annual electricity consumption of France.
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to compensate for the loss, French companies had to “erase” part of their production, the coal-fired power stations still in operation increase theirs, a new gas-fired power station, 40 times more polluting, opened in Landivisiau, and a coal, the largest in Germany, on the other side of the Rhine.
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We now know everything about the reasons for this closure: decided by François Hollande as part of an electoral alliance with the Greens, confirmed by Emmanuel Macron for the same reasons, the plant, judged all the authorities, regulatory as well as independent, could have operated for at least ten more years.
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On the ground, in Haut-Rhin, nearly 1 local jobs have disappeared, and the flamboyant promises of reconversion declaimed by Élisabeth Borne have faded into silence... The clearing of the future EcoRhéna economic zone, supposed to revitalize the territory, just started. A crawler excavator manufacturer is expected there in 900.

Source: Newspaper The Point

While the cost of gas has exploded and the electricity network of greater Germany is in turn faltering, deprived of Nordstreams...
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by Janic » 04/09/23, 13:47

"you can't make omelettes without breaking eggs" goes a saying. But whatever the eggs, if they are all rotten, the omelette will remain inedible unless you take the risk of being sick. Whether it is oil, gas, coal or nuk, the risks are different but the effects are and will remain the same: drink to the living!
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by Ahmed » 04/09/23, 14:12

We can add wind and solar power to the list... All energy is by definition used to modify the world...
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by sicetaitsimple » 04/09/23, 19:06

Janic wrote:"you can't make omelettes without breaking eggs" goes a saying. But whatever the eggs, if they are all rotten, the omelette will remain inedible unless you take the risk of being sick. Whether it is oil, gas, coal or nuk, the risks are different but the effects are and will remain the same: drink to the living!

So ridiculous....
- Don't you have electricity?
- You don't heat your home in winter?
- You intervene on this forum via the operator Saint-Esprit.fr?
etc., etc,.....
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by Ahmed » 04/09/23, 19:32

This is of course correct, but not without consequences. It is not a question of finding culprits, because responsibility is obviously collective and does not depend, for the most part, on an individual decision.
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by sicetaitsimple » 04/09/23, 19:45

Ahmed wrote:This is of course correct, but not without consequences. It is not a question of finding culprits, because responsibility is obviously collective and does not depend, for the most part, on an individual decision.


Of course, but it's sometimes painful to see individual speeches saying "drink (harm, I imagine?) to the living" posted by someone who a priori lives more or less normally in France, using in particular Internet.
I can sometimes go up in the towers, it's quite rare, but it happens.
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by Remundo » 04/09/23, 21:39

say that human activities are harmful to its environment.

Already prehistoric men hunted and cut wood.

Modern men are considerably more numerous and use much more elaborate services.
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by Ahmed » 04/09/23, 21:49

No amalgamation! No common measure between ordinary predators, few in number and behaving like other living beings of the time, without the possibility of overstepping their role and the civilizations which subsequently developed.
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by Remundo » 05/09/23, 03:16

chopping wood and making a fire are the beginnings of what you are denouncing here.

This is indeed environmental degradation for the comfort ofHomo sapiens. Fire control is also the tipping point towards population growth, the resulting pressure on the environment, and access to increasingly sophisticated techniques.
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