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View Christophe » 26/04/11, 12:15

Chernobyl (25 years old): a million dead + little secrets not very bright

According to a book published in 2010 by the New York Academy of Science and entitled "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment", there would have been 985 deaths which are attributable to this accident (000-1986), not counting countless sick people and children born deficient and / or deformed. This book is the result of a study covering 2004 articles written by Russian doctors and specialists who were at the heart of this drama and treated the populations.

You can download the book at

http://www.nyas.org/Publications/Annals ... 3f44b3bfc1

This observation of almost a million deaths contrasts with the few thousand deaths officially "recognized" by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Book publisher, doctor Janette Sherman, a toxicologist, explains in an interview why such a difference, and reveals a little-known little secret, like how the IAEA and WHO reached an agreement in the 1950s so as not to publish reports without the mutual consent of the two organizations. These organizations would have neglected a lot of data, based on 200 to 300 articles, while the New York Academy of Science book is based on 5 articles and research reports. To listen to the interview with Madame Sherman (recorded a week before the Fukushima accident), go to

http://blip.tv/file/4922080

In addition, regarding the nuclear accident at Fukushima in Japan, another doctor specializing in the biological effects of nuclear radiation, Dr. Helen Caldicott gave a press conference in Montreal on March 18, whose link is below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itr6GDuOOBY

The numbers it gives and their impact on human health and all living things on this planet are chilling!

For example, in each damaged reactor, there are 1000 times more radioactive products than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in Japan in 1945. And there are 10 to 20 times more radioactive material in the pools, next to the reactors, to cool nuclear fuel used in the past 40 years. Ms. Caldicott speaks of "evil numbers". It continues with the effects on humans of the various radioactive elements emitted at Fukushima.

I recommend to those who are too disturbed by bad news not to watch this video. For those who want to face reality and not get their heads in the sand, you will still be disturbed. I will just say that there are 250 kg of Plutonium in each reactor, and that a few tens of micrograms are enough to give cancer to an individual. If you do the math, there would be enough to wipe out the human race, if the plutonium was all ingested, which cannot be the case, of course, since by spreading it all over the planet, a small portion would be absorbed by humans. Not to mention that a good part of the plutonium from Fukushima should be found in the atmosphere. But I sincerely pity the Japanese.

Now, several isotopes of Plutonium have a half-life which exceeds 24 years, and the half-life of Plutonium 000 is 244 million years! How to make sure to build a sarcophagus around the reactors (to protect us) which will last as long in a place as subject to major earthquakes and tsunami ???

When we realize all this, we cannot help but say that the era of atomic energy based on the fission of Uranium must definitively end. It is time to move on.

Don't forget the petition to close the Gentilly II nuclear power plant in Quebec. To sign it, go to

https://www.assnat.qc.ca/fr/exprimez-vo ... index.html

Only informed citizens can make informed decisions, and that is what motivates me to share all this information with you, even if it is not always as rosy as I would like. Do not hesitate to circulate.

Sincerely

Pierre Langlois, Ph.D.
Physicist: consultant / author


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View the middle » 26/04/11, 15:45

Yes, Christophe, to throw up all this.
I saw Tchernobil4, and the rest ...
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View dedeleco » 26/04/11, 22:58

This report from the New York Academy of Sciences of doctors and scientists of the USSR on the consequences of Chernobyl on the population, is free to load without paying to register on:
http://www.dissident-media.org/infonucl ... ces_of.pdf
With much more information to read.

Some conclusions:

Clearly there is an increasingly wide spectrum
of urogenital illnesses in men, women,
and children from the contaminated territories
by Chernobyl fallout.
Although some claim
that poor reproductive function is solely due to
psychological factors (stressful conditions), it is
difficulty to blame stress for abnormalities in
spermatozoa, reproductive failures, and birth
abnormalities in children. The opposing influence
of Chernobyl irradiation upon urogenital
morbidity and reproductive function for liquidators
and for millions of people living in the
contaminated territories will continue in coming
generations .....
There is little doubt that specific organic central
and peripheral nervous system damage affecting
various cognitive endpoints, as observed
in both individuals from the contaminated territories
and liquidators, is directly related to
Chernobyl's ionizing radiation. In differing degrees,
these conditions affect all liquidators and
practically every person living in the contaminated
territories.
Among the consequences of the damage
to the nervous system caused by the Chernobyl
disaster are cognitive, emotional,
and behavioral disorders. Adverse effects
also include neurophysiological abnormalities
in the prenatally exposed and neurophysiological,
neuropsychological, and neuroimaging
abnormalities in liquidators, manifested
as left frontotemporal limbic dysfunction,
schizophreniform syndrome, chronic fatigue
syndrome and combined with psychological
stress, indications of schizophrenia and related
disorders ......
Only after 2000 did medical authorities begin
to recognize the radiogenic origin of a universal
increase in cataracts among liquidators
and evacuated from the Chernobyl territories.

Official recognition occurred 10 years (!) After
began doctors to sound the alarm and 13 years
after the problem was first registered ......
The increase in the incidence of digestive
system diseases as a result of Chernobyl irradiation
cannot be doubted. Incontaminated
territories, where Cs-137 was easily detected, it
was accompanied by Sr-90, which is taken up
during intrauterine development and deposited
in teeth and bones. Sr-90 decays to Y-90 via release
of a beta particle, which is harmful to
the developing teeth, and the resulting decay
isotope, Y-90, weakens the structural integrity
of the teeth.
There was an immediate increase in the incidence
of digestive tract diseases among liquidators
and a rise in the number of congenital digestive
system malformations in babies born in
the contaminated territories. The assumption
appears proven that low-level irradiation acts
in some way to directly affect the function of
the gastrointestinal tract epithelium — and not
only during intrauterine development.
Considering the significantly increased digestive
system morbidity among children of irradiated
parents in Japan (Furitsu et al., 1992),
and in the southern Ural mountain area owing
to radiation contamination (Ostroumova,
2004), it is logical to assume that similar consequences
fromChernobyl irradiation will have a
prolonged effect in radioactive territorieswhere
conditions persist ......
The appreciable increase in newborns with
both major and minor developmental anomalies
is one of the undeniable consequences of
the Chernobyl disaster. Everywhere in areas
contaminated by Chernobyl radioactivity,
increased numbers of children have been born
with hereditary anomalies and congenital developmental
malformations, including previously
rare multiple structural deformities of the
limbs, head, and body (Figure 5.15) .The occurrence of congenitalmalformations continues to
increase in several of the contaminated territories
and correlates with the levels of irradiation.
Thus the link between congenital and genetic
defects and Chernobyl irradiation is no longer
an assumption, but is proven.
Extrapolating available data on congenital
malformations and the total number of
children born in the contaminated territories
by Chernobyl, we must assume that each
year several thousand newborns in Europe will
also bear the greater and smaller hereditary anomalies caused by Chernobyl's radioactive fallout ..;

Only when we know the full scope of the
Chernobyl disaster can we prevent such a
tragedy from never happening again.
There was widespread damage to the people
living in the contaminated territories. Nearly
all physiological systems were adversely affected,
resulting in consequences ranging from
impairment to death. These disorders cannot
be attributed to socioeconomic or behavioral
stress factors. They are real and
documented.
Liquidators were the most comprehensively
observed group after the disaster.
Table 5.77 presents dramatic data on the incidence
of 12 groups of illnesses suffered by
Russian liquidators.
It is reasonable to suggest that the state
of public health in the affected territories
may be even worse than that of the liquidators.
Tables 5.78 and 5.79 provide a comprehensive
view of the deterioration in public
health in the affected territories of Belarus and
Ukraine.
Existing data presented in this chapter are
irrefutable proof that the frequency of occurrence
of nonmalignant illnesses is obviously and
significantly higher in the contaminated territories.



On Arte at the moment the same conclusions are presented.
And cancers will still increase (after 30 years)!
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View Christophe » 27/04/11, 19:40

Thanks dede, I put it in the downloads: https://www.econologie.com/tchernobyl-co ... -4350.html with the IAEA report (to "contrast"): https://www.econologie.com/bilan-humain- ... -4349.html

By cons I did not find the figure of 985 mentioned by P.Langlois (I did a super fast overview)

But if we admit that Chernobyl has caused nearly 18 million premature deaths in 1 years, Fukushima risks doing much more ...

I made a quick new one: https://www.econologie.com/tchernobyl-un ... -4351.html
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View Obamot » 27/04/11, 21:33

We can fear it, but for the moment we obviously have no "visibility" on it. It will all depend on the diet. And there the Japanese have an immeasurable advantage, they consume a lot of iodine via fish and other seafood! It will enormously help them to pass the course!
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View dedeleco » 28/04/11, 03:07

We must add this summary scientific scandal:

Finally the most serious lie denounced on the effect of internal radiation very underestimated:
Inhaling the tiniest radioactive particle is the danger "

By cons not a single word on what is most dangerous, the internal radiation that occurs when radioactive particles are ingested in your body. Say for example that if a radioactive particle is 1 meter from you and you inhale it in your lungs, what happens?
The distance from the radioactive source is now on the order of a micron since it sticks to your organ! One meter is equal to 1000 millimeters and one micron to one thousandth of a millimeter. It is a thousand times a thousand (that is to say a thousand square). It is therefore under these conditions that the full value of the irradiation takes when we say that it is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the radioactive source, because in this case, there is no longer measurable distance and the irradiation factor, even if it is low and especially variable depending on the type of radioactive particles (radio nuclides), is increased by a trillion (10 ¹² or 1 billion) !
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View Christophe » 28/04/11, 09:42

Obamot wrote:We can fear it, but for the moment we obviously have no "visibility" on it. It will all depend on the diet. And there the Japanese have an immeasurable advantage, they consume a lot of iodine via fish and other seafood! It will enormously help them to pass the course!


Uh except that it's completely ineffective after the fact if the thyroid was affected by iodine 131 ...

Considering the "precautions" taken with respect to the released radioactive water ... I'm not sure that having a diet with a lot of fish is an advantage ...
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View Obamot » 28/04/11, 10:39

The purpose of taking iodine lozenges is to saturate the thyroid with. In this way, when there is contamination by iodine 131 ... "the place is already taken" and this pathogenic iodine is eliminated by the body. Even if we cannot totally exclude that there are some residual effects, this is how it works (and the result is especially less serious!).

However by its geographical location, Japan is a country traditionally of fishing, so it is not - after the fact - but they have it all the time in their bodies ... iodine they consume a lot, there are even in the air they breathe, and therefore "the place being taken", they have a little less to fear in comparison to Chernobyl, or there indeed the irradiation had already taken place alas, since the catstrophe had been hidden (as usual ...)

As for the current fishing ... They are informed of the dangers, so yes of course, there will always be reckless ... But they are very disciplined and it is not uncommon to see them do their shopping with equipment individual detection (although I have doubts about their ability to detect low doses! It is truly an immeasurable drama for this country!).

So sorry, but not very well understood! ;-)
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View Christophe » 28/04/11, 10:56

Yes I see what you mean, the Japanese surely have in "crude background" a higher iodine level than the Europeans but I doubt that this is sufficient to saturate their thyroid permanently ...

And as said: iodine protects ONLY from iodine 131 ...

It is much more complex to protect yourself from Cesium (consequence in the intestines I think)

I believe many people believe that if they have iodine lozenges they are fully protected from nuclear risk ... : Shock: : Shock: :|
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View Obamot » 28/04/11, 12:30

Ah that, that, that ... bernic! : Cry:

As you say ... it's random! And on the same note, who regularly takes iodine tablets in contaminated areas (I mean "for life")? : Shock:

After a while "nature takes over" and there is no longer any particular preventive measure, probably in 80% of the pulse ...

And then we said to ourselves: "It's not that bad medical costs are 'free' in the area" ... and "real estate is so cheap here!" : Cry:
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