Manufacture torch hydrogen or Brown's Gas

Oil, gas, coal, nuclear (PWR, EPR, hot fusion, ITER), gas and coal thermal power plants, cogeneration, tri-generation. Peakoil, depletion, economics, technologies and geopolitical strategies. Prices, pollution, economic and social costs ...
dudu x2
I understand econologic
I understand econologic
posts: 54
Registration: 23/11/05, 14:08
Location: 49600

Manufacture torch hydrogen or Brown's Gas




by dudu x2 » 22/02/07, 23:34

Hi all!!!

So to speak with NLC we have made quite a bit of progress on the production of hydrogen and on optimized electrolysis.

We have made vehicle tests without having any real satisfaction on recent vehicles (I specify).

So in short, I embark on the manufacture of a blowtorch.

You may bring me the answer.

do I have to call it a gas torch or a brown gas?

What is brown gas?

c the supply of oxygen to the hydrogen, the mixture of which burns and does not detonate?

If you have a precise definition of this word! you are welcome.



As for the project I am cutting 150 stainless steel plates of 100mm * 100mm.


For me, on what I could read hydrogen torches, it is necessary to add oxygen to find a balance and avoid the explosion of gas.


I have well considered making a pressure vessel of the order of 2 or three bars of pressure. add a pressure safety valve and a pressure reducer.

For the regulator I would surely take a regulator for butane I think that will do the trick.

Go put your sauce on me.

I would take good note of it.

Thank you all !!
0 x
dudu x2
I understand econologic
I understand econologic
posts: 54
Registration: 23/11/05, 14:08
Location: 49600




by dudu x2 » 22/02/07, 23:51

good on brown gas i have this ...

it comes from every man

for those who are interested here is the link

http://quanthomme.free.fr/carburant/GazBrown.htm

Brown's Gas is: Vacuum + Water
With Brown's system, 1 kWh of electricity produces 340 liters of gas.
1 liter of water expands up to 1860 liters of gas. The reverse applies as well. During combustion, the gas implodes, which gives 1859 units of vacuum with one unit of water. Finally, we always get pure water.
1.860 l: 340 l = 5,47 kWh
Cost of 1860 liters of gas: 5,47 kWh X price per kWh (varies by country) = 3 FF

Todd Knudfson worked with Brown and would manufacture material. He says: "Electricity + Water = Brown's Gas and Brown's Gas + Ignition = Electricity + Water".
0 x
ThierrySan
Éconologue good!
Éconologue good!
posts: 406
Registration: 08/01/07, 11:43
Location: South West




by ThierrySan » 22/02/07, 23:54

I recommend the panoply for hydrogen storage and its relaxation. Go see the liquid air site, the safety sheets, and what they recommend !!

For your information, hydrogen is the finest gas existing ... It crosses any wall, even steel !! You will always have gas losses. Now, I know that aluminum has special characteristics for storage because it has a centered cubic face (arrangement of alloy molecules). I know that this characteristic offers more resistance to its diffusion through metal!
Also, you will need to store your tank outside and be well ventilated, otherwise, one fine morning you might have surprises ...

Then, in terms of making the torch, it will be hot, but with perseverance, we get there every day ... Maybe if the gases are in liquid form, their continuous combustion will be easier to control, but there, I advance a little ... Maybe an expert in combustion can guide you a little more! : Wink:
0 x
dudu x2
I understand econologic
I understand econologic
posts: 54
Registration: 23/11/05, 14:08
Location: 49600




by dudu x2 » 23/02/07, 00:02

For those who are interested here is the link to their gear ...

http://www.airliquide.com/fr/products/laboratories/equipment.html


I will search a little ...
0 x
rosco12
I learn econologic
I learn econologic
posts: 19
Registration: 01/09/05, 10:52




by rosco12 » 23/02/07, 08:37

Hello everybody

If not for the realization of a blowtorch, a Russian device uses the ionization of water for the creation of a plasma.

With a consumption of 2.5 watt!

The drawback with this system for using it in an engine is that the gas produced is immediately ignited at the outlet of the nozzle.
On the other hand, if it is a blowtorch it becomes all good!

I put the links for info:

http://www.multiplaz.com/french/about.php

Sincerely,

ROSCO12
0 x
ThierrySan
Éconologue good!
Éconologue good!
posts: 406
Registration: 08/01/07, 11:43
Location: South West




by ThierrySan » 23/02/07, 11:23

This technology is great !!

On the other hand, it seems that they are recruiting a French translator !! : Mrgreen:
0 x
ThierrySan
Éconologue good!
Éconologue good!
posts: 406
Registration: 08/01/07, 11:43
Location: South West




by ThierrySan » 23/02/07, 11:26

It's a bit expensive all the same: $ 1900 !!
But for those who can afford it, don't hesitate, it really seems to make very beautiful cuts in steel ...
To test!!
0 x
User avatar
bham
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 1666
Registration: 20/12/04, 17:36
x 6




by bham » 23/02/07, 11:51

ThierrySan wrote:This technology is great !!

On the other hand, it seems that they are recruiting a French translator !! : Mrgreen:

Ah, did you see where?
0 x
ThierrySan
Éconologue good!
Éconologue good!
posts: 406
Registration: 08/01/07, 11:43
Location: South West




by ThierrySan » 23/02/07, 12:18

It was a joke to refer to the mistakes of French on their site ... LOL !! : Mrgreen:
0 x
User avatar
gegyx
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 6931
Registration: 21/01/05, 11:59
x 2871




by gegyx » 23/02/07, 13:45

Yeah, they're also looking for a dealer for France ... : Cheesy:
---
In Italy, it's not worth it, there is already the Multipla Fiat.
0 x

 


  • Similar topics
    Replies
    views
    Last message

Go back to "Fossil energies: oil, gas, coal and nuclear electricity (fission and fusion)"

Who is online ?

Users browsing this forum : No registered users and 242 guests