The non-closure of the Fessenheim plant, where is the scam of the negotiations?

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Re: non-closure of the Fessenheim plant, where is the scam of the negotiations?




by Did67 » 05/03/20, 14:29

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Nothing complex: just selfishness and venality ... as you say: are too spoiled!

Shit kids !! : Mrgreen:


Alas, in a truly existing world, there is everything. All opinions. All beliefs. The pronuclear exist and except to be for radical measures (the extermination of idiots - knowing that one is always the con of someone as long as he does not draw too quickly!). There are some on econology. And they are not wrong on all points. Attention: I said "all".

This is what I simply call a complex situation. Because you have noticed: difficult to change points of view! Proof is provided daily on this forum...

Note that if people were perfect, communism would have worked! And capitalism too !!!

Unfortunately, people are just complex (or "spoiled children" you say): in their heads they dream of an ideal system, but in everyday life, they ignore their compromise (and sometimes compromise). They find excuses in fakes. And idolize such ...
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Re: non-closure of the Fessenheim plant, where is the scam of the negotiations?




by Did67 » 05/03/20, 14:38



Please note: this only concerns the compensation that the State will have to pay to EDF for having forced it to shut down a power station which is still functional and initially had operating permits.

It is necessarily contentious. For example, it is "normal" that it depends on the price of electricity. It's a simple factor: the plant would have produced so much and so much electricity that EDF would have sold. There is therefore prejudice. So, in civil law, compensation (or penalty). But who can say today what is EDF's margin on nuclear electricity over the next 15 years ??? Because it is only the margin that is compensated. We don't know the selling price, which depends on the market, or the production cost ...

Very quickly, that gets complicated: yes, but EDF should have "improved" the plant, according to ASN requirements. Who are not known. Costs that fall apart. So to deduce ...

In any case, it has nothing to do with dismantling. Payable by EDF.

I don't like the use of "big words", like "scam" - we are bordering on fakes. A scam involves deliberate action. We edit. The Court of Auditors speaks rather of negligence or mismanagement (for example: the absence of a cap on these penalties) ... It is not the same. But more reasonable.
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Re: non-closure of the Fessenheim plant, where is the scam of the negotiations?




by Christophe » 05/03/20, 14:46

EDF's electro-nuclear employees idolize cash, benefits and the best possible hourly wage!

But this is only my conviction! : Wink:
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by Eric DUPONT » 05/03/20, 16:59

a power plant whose operating licenses are issued by ASN, a body totally dependent ... on nuclear power. More nuclear, more ASN.

QED
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by Did67 » 05/03/20, 17:12

Christophe wrote:EDF's electro-nuclear employees idolize cash, benefits and the best possible hourly wage!

But this is only my conviction! : Wink:


Certainly.

But it would be wrong to think that they are the only "pronuclear" ...

That we close an arms factory, and the unions protest and demonstrate !!! The question of employment comes up regularly when it comes to arms exports from France! It seems to me that in Belgium too there were demonstrations at the FN ... So it's a reflex, regardless of the "advantages" ... Even if you're right: they are not likely to find such a status if from Fessenheim, they go to PSA-Mulhouse !!!

Flat: there are also many subcontractors (330 a priori), worried, although they are far from having these statuses!
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