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by Did67 » 11/06/11, 08:46

Sorry, a little (too) busy these days: look at the 1e Special Envoy Sequence this Thursday. A quick investigation to charge:

- the Basel-based sismicity evaluated by 6,2 in France and 6,9 in Switzerland (ie 30 plus energetics)

- an internal report in which EdF admits that some speakers are leaking and would be very far from respecting the standards, with the "strategy" of having the standards revised

- a study which shows large differences between the assessment of the seismic risk by EdF and by the IRS (systematically underestimated by EdF; if it were simple inaccuracies in the calculations, sometimes one would be below, sometimes the other; there, no, systematically EdF is below) and curious things, the ARS (control authority) systematically aligned itself with ... EdF; what "clairovance"; these are the ones who will "sing" "don't worry, we have done some tests, everything is in order" !!!) ....

Enjoy as it is on pluzz.fr (7 days I think) ....
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by Did67 » 11/06/11, 10:03

@obamot

There is a political asylum in Switzerland for contributors to "econology" ????
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by Obamot » 11/06/11, 17:29

Soon ...toute Switzerland ... even Germany, Austria, Belgium Spain ...

... and even Canada : Cheesy: :D :D :D
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by Alain G » 11/06/11, 17:43

Past unseen:

USA: NRG could abandon its nuclear reactor project in Texas

- Posted on 23 / 03 / 2011 to 09: 01



US power producer NRG Energy may abandon plans to build two nuclear reactors in South Texas following the disaster at Fukushima's Japanese power station, said managing director David Crane.


http://www.lepoint.fr/bourse/usa-nrg-po ... 216_81.php
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by Obamot » 13/06/11, 20:41

New thunderclap ... HERE > Italy comes out too: 95% of the votes wish it.

AFP, Mathieu GORSE 13.06.2011 wrote:
Italians definitely say goodbye to nuclear power

MILAN - Three months after Fukushima, Italians have definitely said goodbye Monday by referendum to return to nuclear energy, a new blow given to the atom in Europe two weeks after the announcement of its abandonment by Germany.

According to results available to 17H00 GMT taking into account more than half of the polling stations, an overwhelming majority of 94,6% voted against the nuclear.

"We will have to say goodbye to the option of nuclear power plants and make a strong commitment to renewable energies", acknowledged the head of government Silvio Berlusconi even before the polls closed.

Environmentalists and leftist opposition hailed a "historic victory", to use the terms used by Greenpeace.

The result of the referendum means "a definitive goodbye to nuclear energy," Stefano Ciafani, scientific director of the environmental organization Legambiente, told AFP.

In Italy, the government can not go against the result of a referendum for five years, but it would be politically unthinkable to propose the atom again after this time, after the Italians said no by two Twenty-four years, he notes.

After the Fukushima accident in Japan, in April the government buried its program to reintroduce nuclear power, which was abandoned in 1987, as decided by the participants in a referendum following the Chernobyl disaster.

But the Cavaliere hoped that the Italians would be ready to return in a year or two. He had also recognized that the repeal of the program was intended to cancel the referendum by depriving it of its raison d'être, lest it permanently prevent the return to the atom.

Nuclear power was indeed a flagship project of Mr Berlusconi, announced upon his return to power in 2008 and intended to reduce energy dependence of Italy, whose supply is particularly dependent on Libya.

The Italian group Enel had teamed up with France's EDF to build four EPR reactors from 2014 for commissioning in 2020.

As a result of the April decision, the referendum no longer focused on the abolition of the nuclear program, but on an article in the law ending it while not explicitly excluding the atom from the future energy strategy.

This legal interpretation of the promoters of the referendum, against which the government had filed an appeal, was validated by the Court of Cassation and the Constitutional Court.

On the European level, this non nuclear Italians is a new blow to the atom, Germany having decided the 30 may close its last reactors in 2022, becoming the first major industrial power to give up nuclear power since Fukushima. Switzerland had announced a few days earlier its gradual exit from nuclear power by 2034.

"This is further confirmation of the fact that Europe will use nuclear power less and less," said Ciafani, according to whom "France is an exception because it has an interest" in the construction of new plants.

The Italian government, which had set itself the goal of covering by 2030 a quarter of its electricity needs thanks to nuclear power, will have to base on a new energy strategy, based, among other things, on renewable energies, a sector where corporate stocks jumped on the Milan Stock Exchange like Enel Green Power.

End 2010, 64,8% of electricity consumed in Italy was produced in the country from fossil fuels (gas, oil, coal, etc.), 22,2% from renewable energy while 13% was imported.
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by Christophe » 13/06/11, 22:18

Ben Italy had no longer a nuclear power station in operation it seems to me ... and so much better given the seismic zone in which it is: if there is a country in Western Europe where you have to ban the nuke c is italy !!

About the 1er message:
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Better to avoid changing the title of the subject so often ... history to maintain the SEO and that regulars find the subject ...

Edit it by referring to MAJ posts ...
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by Obamot » 13/06/11, 23:40

I think you have enough left pb2488 rot completely this fi ...

... to worry now about possible failing links. The continuation in MP.
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by dedeleco » 14/06/11, 02:49

I had missed Special Envoy on A2 Thursday 9 June 2011, and after seeing it (recorded) that shows that all or later we will have a Cherno-Fukushima in France despite the courage of Fritz in Alsace who is on strike of the hungry at 20km to ask for the closure of Fessenheim !!!
I did not realize that the grand canal of Alsace is much higher than the power station with obviously, if earthquake, a rupture which would drown the power station, and under estimate of the force of this rupture, 20m3 / s of envisaged instead of 480m3 / s real spilling, a micro-tsunami, as well underestimated by EDF than that of Japan by TEPCO !!

I did not realize that Fessenheim is as close to 40Km de Bale, famous with a power 1356 earthquake also underestimated in France to 6,2 compared to Switzerland to 6,9 on historical documents !!
The evaluation of the earthquake acceleration forces is taken at 0,12g (g ground acceleration force) instead of 0,2g according to the IRS, which in my opinion is very underrated comparing Japan with 0,6g and even more !! and the IRS Lacoste responds by saying that it's complex, a real lie, since it's very randomly for earthquakes, and that the destructive violence is mostly related to the distance from the epicenter and not to the total power of the earthquake, it is proportional to the length of the fault that moves and that this complexity of calculations hides above all the will to reduce the strength of the earthquake on the power plant, which would force to close or spend 2 billion to strengthen its base which does not resists that at 1 / 6I of the violence observed in Japan, which it can happen in France with a much smaller earthquake from 5,5 to 7 !!
This acceleration that breaks everything, is not related to the power but especially at the distance of the epicenter, which if under the central will reduce it to radioactive crumbs.
This basic phenomenon is very visible on the number of deaths from earthquakes, far from following their force.
So at the next earthquake, all the specialists will be surprised because their method of the reference earthquake is a criminal absurdity, which in Japan did underestimate the possible tsunami of a factor 3 (it reached 40m in some places)
March 11th tsunami has record 40-meters high
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_04.html
We do not have a sufficient follow-up on the history and the reference earthquake is of the aftershock type after the enormous one of force 8 at 9 which took place a few 1000 to 3000ans in the Rhône-Jura- Rhin valley! !
The only valid method is to use the Earthquake Force Frequency Curve, which allows small earthquakes to evaluate large and rare earthquakes, correcting the jamming effect of trapped plates.
This curve shows that we can have any strength !!
The plants should withstand 0,6g, as observed in Japan, and not 0,12g which is a dangerous and criminal underestimate!
Same thing for our homes !!


Otherwise we learn that the concrete envelopes made with the big sand of the Loire in Belleville is porous and flees more than 1,5% max allowed with EDF lobbying to have the double of 3% and that to pass the requirements to obtain 10 years of more operation at Bugey or Fessenheim, it was necessary to tinker and pass the valves to the sandpaper because otherwise the central, true strainer, was closed.
In addition, it is learned that full of incidents classified without gravity, on the sensors, could cause serious accidents like Fukushima, so bad luck, like failures of the alternators of relief. etc ..
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by the middle » 14/06/11, 07:17

I saw the show,
Very good summary DD!
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by Did67 » 14/06/11, 15:15

I confirm.

Thank you for taking the trouble (I did not have the courage - but I did not have registration either, I did not want to write too much bullshit!)

And ditto for the treatment of gas leaks from the speakers!

Ah, they look proud, our "experts" ... The spokesperson for EdF in front of the internal document dated February 2011 was frankly pitiful!

No doubt last day to see on pluzz .....
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