ITER = DANGER, petition letter

[moinsdewatt]

Iter: delivery of the first reactor parts scheduled for 2018 according to Bernard Bigot

AFP 06 Oct 2016

The Iter site, in the south-east of France, "is progressing" after experiencing significant delays, and the delivery of the first parts of the reactor is scheduled for 2018, the managing director of Iter Organization said on Thursday. Bertrand Bigot.

This project, which aims to master nuclear fusion, "advances" and "pushes all technologies to the frontiers of what is possible," Frenchman Bertrand Bigot told AFP, who took the helm in March 2015. of the project and carried out a true operation on the deadlines and costs, the scale of which surprised the project partners.

Mr. Bigot specified that "at the beginning of 2018 will take place the start of the pre-assembly of the tokamak", the huge magnetic confinement chamber where the nuclear fusion experiment will take place, under construction in Saint-Paul-lez-Durance. (Bouches-du-Rhône). On June 16, the Iter council, on which the representatives of the project partners sit, validated a schedule providing for the test production of a first plasma (electrically charged hot gas) in the reactor in 2025, and not in 2020, as initially planned. .

"At the end of 2035 we will start to produce real fusion energy production, and the reactor will operate at full power, at 500MW, at the end of 2036", and not in 2025-2027 as previously envisaged, declared Mr. Bigot, former boss of the French Atomic Energy Commission (CEA).

"All the countries were aware, even if they did not have the precise elements of appreciation, that the initial timetable was not realistic (...) all the countries were in a way relieved of learn that now was a real calendar, "" credible "and" doable, "he added, calling the previous calendar a" political display ". Corollary of these cumulative delays: the cost of Iter has skyrocketed. Estimated initially at 5 billion euros, it is now estimated at 18,6 billion (2007 to 2035), of which "about 8 billion euros" provided by the EU, according to Mr. Bigot.
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http://www.connaissancedesenergies.org/ ... eur-161006

[Obamot]

and "pushes all technologies to the frontiers of what is possible",

This is what reassures us ...

[moinsdewatt]

Nuclear fusion: while waiting for ITER, journey to the heart of the West Tokamak

BY PHILIPPE PASSEBON PUBLISHED ON 09/02/2017

A new important stage of the ITER project is planned for this spring 2017. Right next to the nuclear fusion demonstrator under construction, an older tokamak - Tore Supra, renamed WEST - will test a key element of ITER: the divertor, responsible for '' remove heat.

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It is at the IRFM in Cadarache, right next to the ITER construction site, that a new series of experiments planned for the spring will bring into play a French tokamak built in 1988: Tore Supra. A key component likely to be used in ITER will be tested there: the divertor. The interior of the tokamak, renamed West (Tungtene (W) Environment Steady-state Tokamak) for the occasion, has been completely redesigned to accommodate the divertor. 25 million euros have been invested in this experience since 2013, in a global budget for ITER of 20 billion.


The vacuum chamber was completely covered with tungsten
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https://www.industrie-techno.com/fusion ... west.48027

[izentrop]

He even produced his first plasma there on December 14. https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/sc ... 057301.php

[Remundo]

we're still waiting for that to produce a first kWh ofnet energy.

Otherwise it can be recycled as a washing machine drum?

[moinsdewatt]

Iter and its fallout

Usine Nouvelle the 18 / 05 / 2017

The construction of the experimental nuclear fusion reactor leads to numerous contracts for regional companies.

Emmanuel Macron is the fourth President of the Republic since the launch of the Iter project on nuclear fusion. So far, none has visited the Cadarache site, in Saint-Paul-lès-Durance (Bouches-du-Rhône), to judge the magnitude of this global technological challenge from which France benefits greatly. The project has been delayed and its schedule has been redefined. The first plasma (“soup” of ions, electrons and nuclei) will not be obtained in 2020, but in 2025. Bernard Bigot, the director general of Iter Organization since 2015, invites French manufacturers to visit the site to realize the opportunities. "We are determined to respect the new validated calendar," he explains. I advise companies to present their solutions to us before tenders. Even SMEs with very specific technologies can supply Iter! "

During Iter Business Forum, at the end of March in Avignon (Vaucluse), more than 1 participants heard the needs expressed by the international organization, the domestic agencies of the project partners (Europe, Switzerland, United States, Russia, India, China, Japan, Korea of the South) and contractors. “Since 000, Fusion for Energy [F2007E, the European domestic agency] has concluded contracts worth nearly 4 billion euros with 4 companies and 440 R & D organizations. In 65, 2016 contracts were signed, explains Johannes. Schwemmer, the director of F570E. Between 4 and 2017, we will spend 2020 billion euros in contracts. "

Thousands of direct and indirect jobs

The tools for the pre-assembly of the Iter core will begin to take place in June 2017 in the hall dedicated to these operations. More than 3 workers, technicians, engineers and scientists already work on the site. Thousands more in 200 countries manufacture the components of the tokamak, the magnetic containment chamber. After the landing of the giant pieces at Fos-sur-Mer (Bouches-du-Rhône), 35 exceptional convoys have already traveled the route laid out by the Iter France agency (AIF) at night.
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long article http://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/it ... es.N540519

[moinsdewatt]

Overview of the ITER site by drone, 4 min of video: https://www.iter.org/fr/news/whatsnew

[ENERC]

What a monster for 500 MW of maximum power ....

On the cost side, it is certainly a proto: but with a 20 billion construction cost, if the reactor produced 500 MW 24/24 7 days a week for 7 years without failures, that would amount to 40 € per MWh. More expensive than solar and intra-day storage in 114! The price per kWh of the EPR just for construction.
So nobody will want it to generate electricity on earth (much too expensive).

To conquer space? Isn't it a bit big to attach that to a rocket?

[Remundo]

ITER is a colossal mismanagement that leads to nothing.

With 20 G €, we can build several GW (and even around 10 GW) of renewable energies of all kinds.

[Exnihiloest]

In France we never understood the idea of ​​risk taking and the idea of ​​investment. This is the reason why Google, Facebook, Youtube and other Twitters are all American, not French.

Iter is a scientific challenge. In principle, we know it can work, so you have to try it in practice. Iter is a prototype, very expensive certainly but many countries participate. It is necessary in order to then be able to proceed to the production stage.
There remains today the problem of plasma confinement, and there things prove to be problematic, to the point that it may be other paths, such as the laser, which will lead to controlled fusion. So we don't know how the story will end. But in France, again and unlike the United States, we never understood that even a failure is not necessarily negative. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.