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by Remundo » 08/01/09, 14:32

I am by nature very skeptical about anything that talks about cold fusion.

As a physicist, it has always been observed experimentally that fusion reactions require phenomenal temperatures.

100 ° C for the Iter Deuterium / Tritium fusion,

For the other reactions, we pass squarely to several billion ° C.

Not really cold.

We never really understood cold "transmutations", nor even really proved that they had taken place (misinterpretation ..., even quackery).

My deep conviction is that we must use the clean, natural and distant thermonuclear fusion: that of the Sun, our star, which generously offers us around 10 times our current energy consumption.

We have everything technically necessary to achieve it (except the will : Idea: ) and we know it works.
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by agriculturegaia » 08/01/09, 14:51

Yes .. we are still going back to the direct converter of the sun into efficient energy but this will not be electricity but a kind of plasma ... with the theory of everything, which brings together all the forces of the universe, I hope that we will see more clearly ..

The cold fusion that 2 researchers, Fleishmann and Pons thought they had achieved in 1989, could never be reproduced. The majority of physicists consider that it has no theoretical basis that can be reconciled with current knowledge. But this is not the first time in the history of science. Logical, you are a graduate physicist who believes in what has learned it. An experiment questions the foundations of your theories. This experience cannot be repeated. It is easier to say that it is an accident than to question the foundations of the knowledge acquired. So a whole part of possible reflection is obscured by the people concerned themselves (not even need for censorship, there is self-censorship!). I think that this attitude reveals the power complex of scientists whose psychological profile is unique (psychoanalytic theory of Freud on the first 3 stages of psycho-emotional development) and that this only slows down the evolution of science.
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by Remundo » 08/01/09, 15:22

Hello Gaïa,

These are not "my theories", but experimental facts. The reproducibility of fusion experiments requires the temperatures I mentioned.

To my knowledge and as you say, we have never been able to reproduce cold mergers, if indeed they actually took place.

I'm not saying that to hit you. I place myself as a scientist without beforehand.
agriculturegaia wrote:Yes .. we are still going back to the direct converter of the sun into efficient energy but this will not be electricity but a kind of plasma ...

Not at all, it is electricity injectable directly on the electrical network. It can also, by electrolysis (already deployed industrially), be energy carriers like hydrogen or electropositive metals which produce hydrogen in contact with water.

I don't know where the "theory of everything" can lead. For now, she's got bogged down in string theory.

I place myself on a much more modest and pragmatic level, a bit like the peasant who, in order to produce what is necessary, knows what to do without the great discussions of salon physicists.

Sincerely 8)
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by agriculturegaia » 08/01/09, 15:42

Ben that yes it is rather pleasant as an exchange with you sir, so without going into the language that annoys Internet users (after they accuse us of scientific masturbation) what do you think of this?

TECHNIQUE O / C (OBSERVATION / CONTEMPLATION): OTHER POSSIBLE WAYS.

The introduction of strange attractors into the theory of turbulence involves objects of non-integer or fractal dimensions. The strange attractor highlights the deepest properties of the behavior of a turbulent system: Its chaotic nature does not result from the superposition of a large number of regular movements but from the mutual disturbance that each exerts on each other and which defines the non-linearity of the system. A small number of exited unstable disturbances is enough to bring the system into the chaotic regime. The physics of turbulences and instabilities still fail to explain the temperature of 6000 ° c on the surface of the sun and the existence of 1.000.000 ° c of the plasma which is 1.000.000 km from the surface: I do not think that this science allows the resolution of the plasma and yet it is the only scientific answer to be able to understand it. Isn't this catastrophic as a scientific approach?

* To understand the plasma based on fusion, you need:

-Paper and pencil.
-Theorists.
- Mathematicians.
-The theory of Everything which describes the link between the microscopic and the macroscopic.
-The resolution of the Lie E8 group.
-The chaos theory.
-A powerful computer which, in numerical modeling and simulations, takes into account geometric elements that are difficult to process.



If the current language is not sufficient, new languages ​​must be created in order to simplify the calculations. Boby Lapointe, as a scientist, created and proposed in 1968, a sort of Esperanto of digitalization, both phonetic and graphic, bibi-binarism. The numerical system that we use every day is the decimal system: 0,1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. The computers, them, use the binary system (or in base 2), each memory element knowing only 2 states: on (1); off (0). The manipulation of numbers written in binary being a very tedious exercise, another numerical system, the hexadecimal system (or base 16), was introduced: This system is in close relation with the binary system but allows to write numbers using less digits: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, a, b, c, d, e, f. Boby Lapointe foresaw the formidable advent of data processing and considered the hexadecimal as not convenient enough. Base 2 (binary system), base 2 power 2 (bi-binary system), base (2 power 2) power 2: The BIBI system has the advantage of almost instantaneous conversion into binary (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Num%C3%A9ration_Bibi)


In this case, it is possible to make a numerical modelization of the behavior of the hot plasma between time t0 and time tfinal. to prove the validity of this digital modelization, it is enough to "rewind" and note or not the state of origin ..; If the state after rewinding is original, this implies that the behavior of the hot plasma will be described by a mathematical equation involving the total understanding of the plasma and therefore the feasibility of fusion for civil application: It is the only scientific solution to achieve the fusion.

Research on fusion is currently a scientific project but of non-scientific motivation, which does not belong to basic science. Excluding fusion implies a close link between the infinitely small and the infinitely large, which required specializations to explain plots of the reality of the Universe. The major problem is that the general relativity E = MC2 is not valid for the infinitely small. It is absolutely necessary to create a research unit to apply the latest discoveries while turning research into the basic sciences: The quest for Iter remains and will remain an experiment of sorcerer's apprentices on the fusion with a budjet worthy of the military budjet. The quest for cold fusion with gravitational confinement is a real scientific process requiring paper and pencil.

And finally to be as simple but concrete as possible, I am talking about cold fusion thanks to a machine more powerful than LHC (the other in progress is not yet powerful enough) in order to create mini black holes that deform space-time in order to increase the probability of meeting H by H (therefore at room temperature, called "cold", therefore not exact) without injecting a hallucinating temperature as ignition energy (because it is indeed the multiple of the first injected energy that interests). So take up the study model of the fusion of the sun. No more waste, no need to look for strange things on the moon (hence space research and ISS) to do too strange things like emit temperatures higher than those of the sun to satisfy the indescent gluttony of the 10 billion d human in 2050 ..

Finally I am a supporter of Garett Lisi's theory of Everything which largely and elegantly replaces string theory. The resolution of the Lie E8 group (a huge thing worse than referencing the human genome, a titanic work !!) then the theory of Everything that is linked ... I do not believe in chance, especially not in the field of science ..

To conclude, I will say that the direct converter of the sun already exists on Earth but is not disclosed and kept preciously by only a handful of mega powerful men and women.

I will come back to you in 24 hours to give you the solution to the puzzle.

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by Remundo » 09/01/09, 22:43

Hi Gaia,

Indeed, but it is a bit technical, a thermonuclear fusion must satisfy Lawson's criterion to diverge (smoking all the fuel to speak trivially).

To simplify, the product n T tau must exceed a critical value.

n is the number of nuclei per unit volume of the plasma, T its temperature, and tau a characteristic cooling time.

In the Sun, gravitation is the main part of the job: the density n is thus very large and T does not need to climb to 100 K as on earth.

It is estimated that the temperature is only 15 K in the center of the sun. The precise area where the mergers disappear is still unknown because we know very little about the flows / convection ...

However, it is not a question of "cold fusion". Simply, the density of matter is such that the temperatures remain "modest" for a thermonuclear fusion.

Otherwise, for ITER, I suspect that the objective is to obtain / calibrate mechanical equations of thermonuclear plasma, equations which are strongly nonlinear, for essentially military purposes to manufacture Deuterium Tritium bombs primed by laser, magnetic necking or same conventional explosive (cchhhuuut ...). In France, the Megajoule laser is also the project complementary (and not a competitor ...) par excellence of ITER.

Otherwise, one should not go to the extreme temperatures and agitations of a thermonuclear plasma to find chaotic or non-linear fluids. The simple flow of air is non-linear, even chaotic because of the nonlinear term in "v.grad (v)" of the Navier equation.

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by agriculturegaia » 10/01/09, 02:16

I have the impression that you are starting to perceive my ideas even if I do not have the vocabulary specific to this discipline, in any case, I gave the best of myself on the subject using the technique O / C over 28 days (basically I gave myself 28 days to study fusion) while I had no knowledge of nuclear physics before ... For proof, I only have a Bac + 2 in science of life and earth, I stopped traditional studies to study by myself. And I make lots of spelling mistakes. And my research tools are:

-the paper
-the pencil
my neurons

The summary of my research on cold fusion written on the first draft and left as is since the day of writing: http://www.agriculturegaia.com/index.ph ... a&Itemid=5


Imagine for a second the day when I will have Gaïa research laboratories with a minimum of logistics and finance ... All that to say to you that it is necessary to create teams of independent scientists: You can take charge of recruiting sympathetic scientists from Gaia. And together let's save the world!

My answer to the riddle as promised 24 hours later (almost ready). The direct converter of the sun exists on Earth: this is called PHOTOSYNTHESIS. Gaïa aquaponics allows you to revalue this direct converter anywhere on the planet with all the positive consequences that this implies. Let your imagination roam in a world of abundance to imagine 1 second all that one could do if we concentrated individual energies .. A bit like in the Gaia federation ..

QED

It is necessary to study chemical agriculture perfectly to understand why it is urgent to return to Natural agriculture. We have to study nuclear fusion to understand why we need to develop clean energies, particularly the direct converter of solar energy, even if the usable energy will no longer be in the form of electricity as we currently know. study animal ethology to understand the behavior of the human species. Science and philosophy must be studied simultaneously in order to avoid iatrogenic acts. It is necessary to use the technique of observation / contemplation in order not to stray too far from the reality of the world, reality transformed into an illusion by Man for some illusory riches.


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by Remundo » 10/01/09, 11:06

Hello Gaia,

I thought I perceived that your idea is the creation of micro black holes so that gravitation lowers the critical temperature of thermonuclear fusion. In principle, it is logical, but concretely, it may take several centuries to be developed.

I must admit that I am not at all a specialist in this field, relating to general relativity coupled with high energy physics. And that concerning merger equations, even "specialists" are still quite ignorant of the mechanisms that govern them.

But nevertheless, with the merger, we are still in the "age of fire". We know it burns, but we don't really know why.

For my part, I think that this is surely a great field of research, but that it is more science fiction for civilian energy, and just science for thermonuclear weapons in 2009 Besides, I think that "non-polluting" fusion weapons (that is to say, initiated without an atomic bomb) will be operational in a few decades.

The real needs of humanity are the last concern of programs like ITER, Megajoule, the LHC or the American Z-Machine.

From an energy and food point of view, the sun's energy can cover (far more than widely) all needs as soon as you take the trouble to exploit it properly. It is indeed necessary to combine:
1. Photosynthesis For alimentation,
2. But also power plants / energy carriers based on the concentration of rays

(of which PHRSD is the latest innovation), to provide everything necessary for plants and people.

What do you think ?
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by agriculturegaia » 10/01/09, 13:00

I say that scientifically research on cold fusion is no more science fiction than the current research of Iter and other .. And that is for sure, you are right that with current scientific methology and state of mind of the sciences, we still have for a few tens of centuries, it is on ... And as you say even the specialists are ignorant in this area .. because they do not want to use the theory of Everything (which calls into question many scientific achievements therefore refused by the majority) allowing to emit the famous clear simple and elegant equations. But with the O / C technique we can speed up this process. This is my idea.

Yes we are at the age of fire, and we are really going to burn ourselves like moron rabbits and burn everything on our way with the fusion we are almost there it is only a question of time ..

It is clear that LHC is swallowing a lot of money to try to scother the small holes in the pressure pipe, to do DIY ... it is experimental and is not intended for civilian electrical production ... BAND OF BUFFON those who work in there! I have just scientifically exploded them with a budjet of a bowl of rice a day ... It is I who deserve their salary not them! Right?

ah yes it's true that if i had money my mind would be less ... looking for the self-regulation of any system ;-)

What do I think of it ? there is BRF too ... But I chose my technique I think it's clear and it shows!

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by Christophe » 18/07/12, 12:12

Some quick info on the ITER project:

- Deadlines (30 years + 30 years) in 2 periods
1) 10 years of construction, 10 years of studies and 10 years of in-depth analyzes.
2) 30 years of "new projects"

- Will also be used to test new materials with "high energy" neutrons

- The overall yield is largely in deficit because the energy of its construction will be 10 times higher than that which Iter can never create (but as it is more research than anything else ... it's not too serious but it's a number to keep in mind)
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by chatelot16 » 18/07/12, 14:28

Remundo wrote:My deep conviction is that we must use the clean, natural and distant thermonuclear fusion: that of the Sun, our star, which generously offers us around 10 times our current energy consumption.


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the nuclear machine is here! it sends us its free energy and the radioactive problem remains far from us

if we had used all the money spent on fusion research to make simple photovoltaic panels we would have electricity in rab

and photovoltaics is just one example ... thermodynamic solar works very well too
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