Germany in 2050 without nuclear

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Re: Germany in 2050 without nuclear




by izentrop » 02/08/18, 23:20

The system of electrical distribution is thus done, it is practice from day to day, to the nearest second, I do not see what there is to philosophize the top https://www.rte-france.com/fr/article/o ... la-demande
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Re: Germany in 2050 without nuclear




by Ahmed » 02/08/18, 23:35

I think that the criticisms leveled at an electricity supply "having" to adapt to the demand do not concern the regulation "in real time", but the measures, of a political nature, which could be taken to encourage or not medium-term consumption, which is more than legitimate ...
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by moinsdewatt » 26/08/18, 13:53

Well, it will make the Teutonic feet, the level of the Rhine is low and prevents loading the barges of coal!
3000 t capacity barges are only loaded at 1000 tons.

Coal barges to Germany less than 30% full due to low water


August 22

Coal barges earmarked for German destinations are contributing to the market.
"There is no problem getting barges from Rotterdam to have far as we are having to load just 30% of usual capacity," said a Dutch barge operator, adding to 3,000t barge was actually carrying just 800-1000t of coal.

"[Therefore] are not enough," he said, adding, "we are paying more than normal, to compensate for the loss in euro-per-tonne earnings."

"I can confirm that barges are loading just between 30-50% of what they usually can take," said a source at one large European dry bulk terminal.

Shallow waters
Water levels at Germany's main indication point of Kaub, on the Rhine, are predicted to decline by nearly 20% from current levels, to just 48cm by Sunday, according to Germany's Electronic Waterways Information Service.

Flat-bottomed barges can continue to navigate rivers, even when levels drop below 40cm, but have to reduce cargo volumes quite clearly, resulting from a higher call on barges, or alternative means of transport.

"There are some [inquiries] for reloading into trains," he said.
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by moinsdewatt » 16/09/18, 23:52

Germany: 9 injured during evacuation of environmental activists

afp, the 16 / 09 / 2018

Nine environmental activists have been lightly injured and 34 in total arrested during the evacuation of a forest in occupied Germany to block the expansion of a coal mine, said Sunday the police.

The police operation has been going on for several days in the Hambach forest near Aachen in the west of the country, near the border with Belgium and the Netherlands.

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Environmental activists face police officers in the Hambach Forest in Kerpen, Germany on September 15 2018. / dpa / AFP

Dozens of environmental activists had settled there, sometimes in buildings located at the treetops, some 25 meters from the ground.

Their objective: to prevent tree cuts planned by the RWE power generation group, and authorized by the administration, to allow the expansion of a lignite mine, a highly polluting brown coal extracted in the open on very large areas.

The presence of environmental activists has been tolerated for years but RWE has recently decided to assert its rights in this area.

In Germany, the Hambach forest has become the symbol of the opponents of coal, which remains an important source of electricity production, notably because of the 2011's decision to abandon nuclear power in 2022.

Even though the coal seems to be condemned to term, the government has not set date release date and the exploitation of this fuel continues especially in the west and east of the country. It is also an important employment issue in these regions.



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by moinsdewatt » 17/09/18, 22:52

In Germany, the electrician RWE opposes a stop of coal plants in 2035

Usine Nouvelle the 16 / 09 / 2018

The energy transition risk is getting more complicated in Germany. Electrician RWE and several unions opposed a shutdown of coal plants around 2035. The German government must set a timetable for the exit of fossil fuels by the end of 2018. Today, coal accounts for 40% of total electricity production in Germany.


The German electrician RWE and unions are opposed to a halt in electricity generation from coal-fired power plants around 2035 in Germany. This position could complicate the search for a compromise.

In a statement, RWE considers this timetable unacceptable and says that additional investments are needed in networks and renewable energies to guarantee Germany's energy supply in the future.

A balance must be struck between meeting climate change goals and safeguarding the interests of consumers and employees in the sector, RWE says. Unions and the works council of the group made similar remarks.

Coal represents 40% of electricity production in Germany

According to the weekly Der Spiegel, Ronald Pofalla, one of the leaders of the government commission responsible for preparing Germany's abandonment of fossil energy sources and set a deadline by the end of 2018 for the realization of this objective, proposed to give up coal between 2035 and 2038. The German Ministry of the Economy refused to speak on the subject.

Germany wants to increase the share of wind and solar energy in 65's 2030 generation by XNUMX% in XNUMX to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions and meet its commitments to combat climate change.

Coal represents 40% of Germany's total electricity production, making it difficult to abandon without disrupting the supply of households and businesses.

Nuclear shutdown planned by 2022

Germany has also decided to close its nuclear plants by 2022 following the Fukushima disaster in Japan in March 2011.

German energy groups like RWE and Uniper say they have prepared their own plans to shut down coal-fired power plants, which will extend into the 2040 decade.

Environmental organizations want to go faster.

The government commission must find a compromise between these different positions and help direct federal funds for innovative industries to regions currently dependent on coal.


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by moinsdewatt » 25/05/19, 14:59

Coal output in Germany: Berlin expects 40 billion euros for reconversion in the regions concerned

AFP published the 22 May 2019

The German government plans to release 40 billion euros to reconvert the four regions where coal mines and power plants are concentrated, a very polluting energy that the country intends to abandon by 2038.

A bill to this effect adopted on Wednesday is the first concrete step towards the exit from coal, a colossal project intended to accelerate the decline in German greenhouse gas emissions, for the time being much too slow. "For the first time since World War II, we are organizing a structural turning point before it occurs. We are creating new jobs before the old ones disappear," said Minister of the Economy Peter Altmaier.

In detail, the federal state intends to allocate up to 26 billion euros to a series of specific projects, and let the mining region-states use another 14 billion euros as they see fit to finance "significant investments".

Initially, the aim is to improve the infrastructure in North Rhine-Westphalia, Brandenburg, Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt, the four states that share the three main coalfields combining lignite and coal-fired power plants. the country. In addition to new railway lines and digital networks, Berlin plans to develop research institutions and public administrations in these regions in order to attract private investors.

The schedule adopted, four days before the European elections, intends to take by surprise "the campaigns of certain populist parties on the right and on the left", declared Mr. Altmaier. The two ex-GDR mining basins, in particular, are among the strongholds of the far-right AfD party, which defends a climate-skeptic and pro-coal line, and regional elections are expected there in the fall.

Once this plan of aid is adopted, the government will also have to program the closure of lignite mines and power stations in activity, a task that promises to be delicate and should be accompanied by heavy compensation for the operating companies.

More broadly, Berlin is working on a "climate law" expected in the year, the main building site of the ruling coalition, while the country has already given up on its greenhouse gas reduction targets for next year. In addition to the rise of renewable energies and the abandonment of coal, which still accounts for more than a third of electricity consumption, Germany must improve the insulation of buildings and reduce emissions from the transport sector.


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Re: Germany in 2050 without nuclear




by sicetaitsimple » 26/05/19, 13:09

bardal wrote:What seems a little odd to me about these figures is that they do not correspond with those in my possession (source AIE); the difference is globally a little over 4% (in addition for renewable energies according to Fraunhofer, or F. Drouard, we do not know); oddly, these 4% and a few correspond exactly to "other" energy production, ie the share of non-renewable waste and the production of steps (already recorded).
The costing, corrected for this "error" would then be 37,7% and not 41,5%, the figure displayed for the previous year being 34,1% and not 37,7%. If this "error" is proven, it would be a new bogus figures, which are customary some zealots of ENR and admirers of the policy of our neighbors.


I dig up this remark from Bardal (not so old, less than a year old) to bring him a technical explanation, which we think is another subject.
There is just a perimeter problem:
- The values ​​presented in the article by the Fraunhofer refer to the electricity produced for "public power supply", that is to say and to simplify the electricity that will pass through public networks, or more exactly which benefits from any contract allowing it to inject into public networks.
- Other values ​​exist, which integrate more electricity produced by manufacturers on large sites but which is intended to be self-consumed, so not to transit through public networks. This is of course essentially fossil in the broad sense, including gases of various and varied processes especially in the chemistry. Historically, self-production by industry is quite developed in Germany.
There you have it, that explains the difference. The first presentation is actually more "flattering" for renewables.
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by izentrop » 26/06/19, 11:42

He has a vision of Germany's energy policy quite right
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by moinsdewatt » 29/06/19, 13:37

Automotive, nuclear, coal: why Germany struggles to lower its emissions

AFP published the 27 May 2019

Despite the "green" image it cultivates abroad, Germany will miss its climate targets in 2020, and could also fail in 2030 if it does not quickly deliver ambitious measures.

Why does this country, with full public coffers and an electorate committed to environmental issues, struggle to decarbonise its economy?

Dear car

Central to the prosperity of Germany, the automobile is both an industrial flagship export, the source of more 800 000 jobs and a preferred means of travel.

The German government, after having scrapped for a long time in Brussels to limit the emission standards imposed on Volkswagen, Daimler or BMW, remains reluctant to program any release of combustion engines detrimental to its manufacturers, despite the global scandal of "dieselgate".

More broadly, Berlin openly protects the interests of motorists. Last year, the government sabotaged traffic bans for old diesel jets in some city centers by refusing to adopt a vignette system to control vehicles.

Recently, the Conservative Ministry of Transport has torpedoed the project of a speed limit on German highways, yet worn by his colleague from the Environment to reduce without spending a penny on road pollution and mortality.

Goodbye to nuclear

Chancellor Angela Merkel took 2011 one of her most spectacular decisions by planning the abandonment of nuclear energy by 2022, in the aftermath of the Fukushima disaster. While this choice has received widespread approval, in a country that has had a powerful anti-nuclear movement since the 1970 years, it has upset the supply of its energy-intensive economy.

Germany has certainly developed renewable energies - wind, solar, biomass and hydro - passed to 38% of its electricity consumption, and plans to increase their share to 65% by 2030. But their production is intermittent, their storage costly and expensive, and they must be transported from the windswept North and sown with wind turbines to the Southwest, the center of gravity of the German economy.

The country must therefore import Russian gas and was unable to reduce for years its reliance on coal, cheap energy and highly polluting, razing entire villages to enlarge its vast open pit lignite mines.

Coal, politically mined

After months of consultation, Berlin decided earlier this year to get out of coal before 2038, and now has to program the closure of mines and power plants, as well as the reconversion of mining areas. But even if the government decided last week to unlock 40 billion euros to support the four regions concerned, the task looks socially and politically explosive.

Of course, the coal industry - coal, coal and lignite combined - saw its workforce melt by almost 100.000 positions since 2000 and now accounted for only 30 000 jobs in 2016, five times less than the wind sector, according to the Specialized website Strom Report. But these posts are concentrated in regions already affected by the decline of the Rhineland steel industry in the West, or by the collapse of the East German industry not far from the Polish border.

In the former GDR, the mining basin has also become a bastion of the extreme right: Sunday evening, the AfD came first in Brandenburg and Saxony, where will be held in September regional elections dangerous for the Merkel government .



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Re: Germany in 2050 without nuclear




by sicetaitsimple » 02/01/20, 15:26

Preliminary figures for 2019 have just been published. For the first time I believe, very significant reductions in lignite-based (-18%) and hard coal -32% production.

Three main reasons I think:
- the price per tonne of CO2 which remained stable and relatively high throughout the year
- the consecutive drop in German electricity exports and therefore in production (513TWh for 541 in 2018).
- a good wind year

Edit: a fourth, the very low cost of gas prices, which results in production of around + 35% (53,7TWh in 2019 vs 40 in 2018)

To see for the future, it will still be necessary to compensate for the closure of 4000MW of nuclear power in 2021 and the same thing in 2022. For 2020, there is "only" 1300MW to compensate (judgment of Phillipsburg2 on 31/12/19 ).


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