Gas is the fuel that emits the least CO2

[GuyGadebois]

I can't read but I can lie

Your thing stops in 2015 ...

A study published in 2015 estimated that the Barnett shale region in north Texas lost 544 tonnes of methane per year due to leaks for a reasonable leak rate of 000%. This is equivalent to 1,5 million tonnes of CO46, more than states like Nevada or Connecticut.

In 2015, a study by John Worden of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory found that methane levels had remained stable for years but had increased sharply shortly after 2006, by 25 million tonnes per year. Using satellites and other valuation methods, they concluded that the contribution of fossil fuels to this increase was 12 to 19 million tonnes, the remainder probably coming from biological sources.
https://www.nationalgeographic.fr/envir ... te-mise-en

[GuyGadebois]

[I buy Biogas at the pump ...

We will not come back to this ...
You buy Qatari, US, Russian, Norwegian gas ... with some "guarantees of origin", and I and over 30 million others pay the difference between the price of the "biomethane" you feel 'buy at the pump and this imported gas (about 8 times more expensive at the moment).

Well let's see ... You have to lower your intake of psychotropic drugs, my boy.

[realistic ecology]

I can't read but I can lie

No, no and no ! I didn't write anything like that, it's quick to check it out, it's libel. If there is any moderation on this site, I request that this post be removed.
I ignored the insults of this gentleman by not stooping to answer them, but I cannot accept that he accuses me of lying.

There are good faith contributors here, they can support me.

[GuyGadebois]

I can't read but I can lie

No, no and no !

Explaining that Co2 is falling in the USA with a graph that stops in 2015 while Co2 increased by 3.1% between 2017 and 2018 in this same country is a big lie.

[sicetaitsimple]

Well let's see ... You have to lower your intake of psychotropic drugs, my boy.

Keep cool!
I think you still haven't understood anything about the guarantees of origin system, but it is true that it is a somewhat complex abstraction.
In addition I do not accuse you of anything, because neither you nor I are responsible for the mix of France's supply of natural gas, nor for the development of biomethane production facilities, nor for the purchase prices / subsidies which allow their development (without aid, there would be just none).

On the other hand, if Guygadebois wanted to be proud to run on biogas and assume it, it would have to pay its full about 8 times more expensive. Are you leaving?
Bah no, it is the community that pays this additional cost.

PS: which would not change anything, even assuming, the fact that depending on the location where you fill up, there might not be any biogas molecule in your tank!

[GuyGadebois]

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Bah no, it is the community that pays this additional cost.

As for nuclear electricity and its dumping, as for the pollution generated by farmers-industrialists / polluters / non-payers, as for the CAP, as for a lot of other things ...

[sicetaitsimple]

As for nuclear electricity and its dumping, as for the pollution generated by farmers-industrialists / polluters / non-payers, as for the CAP, as for a lot of other things ...

Ah darn! I who thought you thought biomethane was virtuous and a real solution (see your first post on this forum), it is you who brings it back to the level of turpitude that you usually denounce ...

[GuyGadebois]

As for nuclear electricity and its dumping, as for the pollution generated by farmers-industrialists / polluters / non-payers, as for the CAP, as for a lot of other things ...

Ah darn! I who thought you thought biomethane was virtuous and a real solution (see your first post on this forum), it is you who brings it back to the level of turpitude that you usually denounce ...

I'm talking about methane, not biomethane. And where did you get the "8 times more expensive", if not?

[sicetaitsimple]

And where did you get the "8 times more expensive", if not?

Here, it is difficult to make more recent.

https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/file ... 010895.pdf

The gas price is around 10 to 12 € / MWh PCS at the moment.

[GuyGadebois]

And where did you get the "8 times more expensive", if not?

Here, it is difficult to make more recent.

https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/file ... 010895.pdf

The gas price is around 10 to 12 € / MWh PCS at the moment.

Gas prices 2019 B1 and B2i - Zone 5 2019

Total Spring kWh Price - Indexed Gas Offer € 0,06648 (KWh)

Eni kWh price - Eco offer € 0,0637

Price kWh Direct Energy - Classic offer € 0,0706


"Green" Zone F gas (the most expensive):

Biogas ENGIE My Green Gas offer:
Price kWh 0.0574 €

Biogas Direct Energie Offer Green Offer
Price kWh 0.0555 €

Ilek Biogas Offer - Indexed rates
Price kWh 0.0565 €

Ilek Biogas Offer - Fixed rates
Price kWh 0.0649 €

So according to you, it would be necessary to pay 8 times that price to have a "fair price"?