Fuel prices at the pump and oil, where is the bug?

[Obamot]

...I haven't met him



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[Remundo]

latest Macronist nonsense on fuel prices

[Janic]

latest Macronist nonsense on fuel prices

These Romans are all crazy!

[phil59]

Where I work, €1 worth of fuel is the minimum. (much more in fact)

Let's say, counting €2 per liter, to simplify, that's 500 liters, at 000 cents of loss, that would be €40 of loss.

With a hyper turnover of around €100 per year, in a single month, you reduce the total margin enormously, and in 000 months, on the balance sheet you are in negative, or not good far.

With a loss of €200 per month, how many employees could you hire per year?

To put it in perspective, around 5 years ago, in electricity, we paid 7 cents (a little less) per kWh.
Today it looks like 30 cents.
5 years ago, it was around €25 worth of juice per month.

The calculation is simple, today it’s more than €100.

So, yes, quite a few things have increased... you have to make up for the €75 per month of electricity....

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do you work in a supermarket?

I have always wondered, in fact, the electricity bills with fridges and air conditioning that heat up in winter...

Another question I ask myself: if there is no electricity for 24 hours, do you have a plan B like a generator?

[phil59]

In 2008, we changed site, 1-2 km away.

It is a 7000m2 hypermarket.

We have a mega GE, a V12, of extremely large size, which is capable of keeping the hyper 24/24 and 7/7, provided you add fuel, and if my memory serves me correctly, it's several thousand of liter day...

Fortunately, it is not used every day, and has more monthly "maintenance-test" start-ups than actual hours of use.

In addition, I had installed 2 15 kVA inverters, for IT and derivatives... and batteries, to last around 1 hour without backup juice.

Many hypermarkets do not have a GE, or, when they do, not powerful enough to save everything, some can only last a few minutes for the checkouts, on their inverter.

We “groped around” to find an optimum setting.

We ended up putting, production by the GE, one minute after cut-off, and it also only stops for one minute after the juice returns, is stable in fact, otherwise, too much of a standing start.

[Remundo]

mazette a V12 as a generator... do you have any idea of ​​the power? maybe 800 kVA?

[phil59]

I would have said not far from double, the transformer in place must be around 1600, in 2008, I no longer have the price in mind of the transformer, but it seems to me that it was not far from €200 , and the group, no idea...

[Remundo]

but it still confirms my idea, very few supermarkets are able to provide their cold rooms in the event of a network outage...

we are talking about the order of 1MW

[phil59]

Yes, and when you have to "break" what is "cold", it costs a lot of money.

But generally, we have contracts for 4 hours max for juice recovery, and what is in cold storage or frozen, it lasts.

The problem is more on the open "gondolas".

But the biggest losses don't usually come from running out of juice.

Plus engine failures, gas leaks, etc.

Everything is monitored with tp sensors, and you have cold alarms, and at night, well, a person is called.

For the price of fuel, many hypermarkets will set cost prices.

But, when we know that the margin is closer to 2%, than 3, we should not expect big miracles.