EPR, to the dregs for EDF and Areva?

[Obamot]

Historical loss but they manage to turn, should perhaps “nationalize” them (with the banks?)

The plant you are talking about must be this one (we find an expected production of 110GWh/year in the article):

https://phys.org/news/2011-07-gemasolar ... hours.html

Simply, it does not have a nominal power of 10MW, but of 20MW. Just a detail.....

You contacted France2 so that they rectify and you've been teasing them for years with the “Melted Salt” I hope...?

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[Christophe]

Good friends I found the solution: TOTAL just has to buy EDF!

https://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article ... _3234.html

Rising energy prices: TotalEnergies' profit more than doubled over one year

As a direct consequence of the war in Ukraine, and its effects on electricity and gas prices, the profit of the French company reached $5,7 billion in the second quarter of 2022, when that of the British Shell was multiplied by five.

[Christophe]

"A machine that is too complicated, almost inconstructable" Henri Proglio, former CEO of EDF on the subject of the EPR.

This industrial solution is a fad that responds to a dogma. Not a reasoned choice.



Why is an EPR so much more complicated than a REP?

The Chinese managed to run EPRs...didn't they? Is there one in Finland too?

[Petrus]

Maybe because the reactor is too big and it's more profitable to make two smaller ones.
We know the rest, the EPR will join the concorde, the A380 and the solar road of Ségo in the basket of stupid projects more done to satisfy the egos than to fill a need and we will buy in disaster American reactors built by American workers since we no longer have the necessary rigor in France.

[Christophe]

It's not that big: from 1.3 GW for the biggest PWRs to 1.6 for the EPR, it only makes a difference of +23% on the power...

It's not a big difference either...

But it is clear that given the liabilities of the French EPR to build 2 of them of 1.3 GW would have been more profitable!!

[sicetaitsimple]

It's not that big: from 1.3 GW for the biggest PWRs to 1.6 for the EPR, it only makes a difference of +23% on the power...

You are rewriting history, in addition by making a mistake because the last 4 reactors (Chooz and Civaux) are 1450MW.
The EPR is a Franco-German concept originally called REP2000 (the year), which aimed to have an identical design for France and Germany.
As a result, we added up all the criteria, taking the most conservative each time, until for internal reasons Germany withdrew from any new nuclear project.....And we stayed with this thing.. .
So yes, of course, building a copy of Chooz or Civaux if necessary would have been much smarter. But that's not the story...

[Christophe]

Wow, I hadn't checked!

So the delta is even less...

And so, are you explaining to us that it's still the schleus who did it to us backwards?

It would be nice to return the favor one day...

Hey, they just chose Rican F35s...

Long live Europe!

[sicetaitsimple]

And so, are you explaining to us that it's still the schleus who did it to us backwards?

No, I'm explaining that for their own reasons the Germans decided at some point to phase out nuclear power, which of course had a significant impact on this program.
It will work, and it already works in China and Finland (with problems related to the non-nuclear part of the installation in Finland), but the deadlines and the estimated costs are exploded.

[Remundo]

the EPR is difficult to build, it's true, with numerous securities.

But I think the big problem is that we lost the site managers and the basic know-how (welder) as well as a serious organization to synchronize the multiple actors of the project.

The Lauvergeon-Sarkozy era ransacked the industry, while Hollande and Macron, each in their own way, finished off the beast.

The Chinese tried to build an EPR and succeeded!

[Christophe]

The Chinese are not at the real 28 hours a week...

The problem with the French today is not their skills, there are still some (but it's decreasing), it's above all their mentality...