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by Ahmed » 10/10/11, 20:01

The addition of EMAG has 2 consequences:
1- the fuel becomes detergent, therefore suspends all deposits and risks clogging the engine filters; having a tank cleaned is certainly very expensive for (often) small users of old tractors.
2- the shelf life is limited, moreover there are 2 formulations: one for the summer and another for the winter; as the conservation does not exceed 6 months ... hello simplicity!
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by Macro » 11/10/11, 08:47

An agricultural professional who owns an old tractor knows his annual and seasonal fuel needs ... Because in terms of the "seasonality" of fuel he had exactly the same concerns. It was necessary that in winter it takes fuel in winters otherwise from 5 ° the ordinary fuel begins to clog the filter, and at 0 ° C it is over it does not work ...

Regarding tanks ... Indeed tank cleaning is not a given thing. But even with fuel ... It had to be done at least every 10 years ...

If it is a small operator ... A tank of 1000litres in plastic cubi IBC for example is found for some tens of € of occasion ... I even place announcements regularly for cubis all given from the moment or it is to store fuel ...
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by kumkat » 11/10/11, 11:26

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by Obamot » 11/10/11, 12:47

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lesechos.fr wrote:In order not to increase the deficit, the government will double the rate of the tax on sugary drinks (to 2 cents per can of 33 centilitres). Gain: 120 million.
http://www.lesechos.fr/journal20111010/lec1_france/0201683159922-agriculteurs-btp-hausse-de-taxe-en-vue-sur-le-carburant-230794.php


As diabetes is an ALD (long-term condition) in the same way as alcoholism, they should tax sodas at least as much as alcohol amha .... Besides, the more sugary drinks would be taxed, the less there would have degenerative diseases linked to the abuse of sugar: like obesity ... osteoporosis ... eye problems, etc ... And less the accounts of social security would be in the red ... (!)

I find this measure to tax sodas, quite simply excellent, but it should not apply only to sodas, but to all the products having in excess of "fast sugars" and not enough slow sugars (with exceptions like for ice cream ... must not push)! Why weren't there until then, the same criticisms with excess sugar as with excess salt or alcohol ... One wonders! While, however, medical circles have been complaining about it for years ...

It is high time that governments attacked industrial agri-food. Since we know very well that - all these devitalized and overly sweet foods - are the main vectors of degenerative diseases ...

Because taxing the fuels used in agriculture - where they are useful and essential for the moment - it's a good idea .... STUPIDITY!
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by Macro » 11/10/11, 14:39

It is a very good idea to tax sugar ... It is a very good source of income in taxes. What will be consumed as food will be taxed at 25 or 30%, and what will not be not eaten will end in biofuel taxed at 77% ...

Here is a very good idea ... To make of a stone at least three blow.
-Decrease obesity
-reduce our dependence on petroleum (symbolically but still)
-increase state revenues

And all this, without angering the lobbie "ethanol, sugar, beet" ...

Well it's going to make a little cola cola, whatever it is not so sure, because I think they already have a whole bunch of fleet brands in their portfolio ...
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by kumkat » 11/10/11, 14:40

and after sugar we can make the fat ...
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by Ahmed » 11/10/11, 21:23

I'm not really convinced by your answer, Macro.

With the usual fuel oil certainly existed, a problem of solidification of paraffin in the cold and therefore the need for a winter fuel next to a summer fuel. However, it was open to a small user to get only winter fuel and run all year round on one and the same fuel.
With GNR this will no longer be possible since the formulation is unstable, there is no long-term preservation possible.
Or else, it will have to be supplied in small quantities, at a high price, therefore and with the constraints that this implies (remember to order, monitor the level, wait for the delivery man ...).:frown:

As for the tanks, what you are proposing is contrary to the regulations: the tanks must now be double-walled ...
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by Macro » 11/10/11, 21:33

GNR is diesel. With a dye added to it ... It is stable ... strategic stocks are kept for well over a year ...
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by Ahmed » 11/10/11, 22:16

This is not what I read, FAME has a strong affinity with water, so it is sensitive to "rustic" storage conditions.

In addition, the stability of standard GNR is only around 6 months, whereas in the case of road diesel it does not pose a problem, since an automobile tank is small and the tanks of service stations are rapidly rotating.
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by Obamot » 11/10/11, 23:27

Yes, well, that's what I like about Macro (... I'm a bit like that too ...) its sometimes "expeditious" side! : Mrgreen:

Mébon, fôt be careful with sugar, which is the main food of the brain ... So we can not tax ALL sweet foods ...

For fat, it's the same. As an example:

- butter is 100% cholesterol ... YES BUT, it is better to cook in a pan with a knob of butter than oil (since its fatty acids then take the form "TRANS" which is fatal for the cell membrane, therefore very harmful in the long term (remember that linseed oil is deadly in frying ... prohibited for consumption in France, by the way!). Only olive oil tolerates cooking a little, but even there ... it would be better to avoid and consume it raw in fillet on food AFTER cooking ...

- the other first pressure oils are ESSENTIAL for health (polyunsaturated fatty acids, omega -3, -6, -9 ... etc)

- exclusively hydrogenated fats (found in all margarines, so do not fall into the panel when it is marked "with omega ... blah, blah, blah... ") and all vegetable fats that have been heated should be taxed! But none of the others ... Even better, we should ban the heating of these oils for cooking, as New York State did for restaurants and certain retailers ... In order to fight obesity !

- as for heavy oils and used oil, you can consume them in the kitchen ... without even knowing it! For example, traces of mineral oil have been found in Lessieur's assembly oils ... Because certain standards allow them to do so ...
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